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Date:      Tue, 18 Dec 2012 22:21:26 -0600
From:      Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com>
To:        FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Somewhat OT: Is Full Command Logging Possible?
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On 12/18/2012 10:10 PM, Devin Teske wrote:
>
> On Dec 18, 2012, at 6:20 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>
>> On 12/18/2012 08:03 PM, Devin Teske wrote:
>>>
>>> On Dec 18, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/18/2012 07:33 PM, Devin Teske wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 18, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One further question, if I may.  If I do this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    sudo su -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will log_input record everything I do once I've been promoted to
>>>>>> root?  I ask because my initial experiments seem to show that all
>>>>>> that's getting recorded is the content of the sudo command itself,
>>>>>> not the subsequent actions…
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Correct, sudo is blind to the actions performed once the command requested is executed (in this case, "su" and subsequently a shell followed by more actions).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually, I just tried this with both log_input and log_output options enabled.
>>>> It seems that it *can* see into the promoted shell with a few caveats:
>>>>
>>>>   - Command output is logged immediately, but command inputs appear to only
>>>>     be written to the log when you exit the promoted shell.  This may be
>>>>     not quite right - there may have not been enough input to cause a
>>>>     write flush to the log.
>>>>
>>>>   - The logging seems to be able to see into a spawned subshell, but
>>>>     I don't think it can see input/output if you, say, kick off an xterm.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What about if you do "sudo vim" and then type ":sh" ?
>>
>> Yep, I just tried that too.  It catches that.  It also catches
>> the in/output of subshells - like, say, kicking off sh interactively.
>> Similarly, if you're running text-based emacs, it catches the output
>> of spawning to a shell from there and doing things.
>>
>> The only restriction I have run into so far, it that - for obvious
>> reasons - sudo cannot see into what you're doing if you kick off
>> an X application like xterm or graphical emacs, for instance.
>>
>
> What about screen or tmux? (wondering if the transition into multiplexed shell is anywhere as opaque as X11).
>

It definitely works if you are in a screen session and sudo su - from there.  I have
not tried promoting myself to root and THEN starting the screen session (I don't use tmux).

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