Date: Mon, 11 Aug 97 21:23:05 -0700 From: "Mike Burgett" <mburgett@cmnsens.zoom.com> To: "hardware@freebsd.org" <hardware@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: K6-200 Has anyone successfully done a 'make world' ? Message-ID: <199708120423.VAA06861@dragon.cmnsens.zoom.com>
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On Mon, 11 Aug 1997 20:58:49 -0700 (PDT), Howard Lew wrote:
>I think this will be a never ending topic of conversation, but let's try
>to look at all possibilities.
>
>Questions to Ask/Answer/Consider:
>
>1) The K6-233 does run quite hot... Heatsink grease is required for all AMD
>K6s according to AMD (I would say a fast fan is a good idea too).
Check.
>2) I have ran a K6-200 as a FreeBSD box and it does run fine, but I am
>not the type who does make worlds so I can't tell you if it really/really
>doesn't fail doing that test. It runs fine for typical stuff (X windows,
>telnet sessions, etc.)
It might be very interesting for you to test it on your world. (Maybe just a
build, not an install). I seem to remember a rash of "my K6 won't run 'make
world' anymore" postings awhile back that hit all around the same time. That
was in the 2_2_RELENG branch, I believe. Since your config pre-dates that, it
may provide some insight.
>3) I think everyone I have heard around here says that they have "make world"
>problems were using Asus motherboards. Is this just a coincidence? Yes, I
>know you guys choose Asus because it is generally a high end motherboard
>manufacturer. (The K6 does draw more current that a Pentium/MMX so a board
>that works fine on a Pentium/MMX may not necessarily work on a K6, so
>swapping it for a Pentium/MMX cpu does not necessarily make all things
>equal).
I have *no* problems with 'make world' with a pentium chip, other than it's
slow. :) And, if you see below, I had a board that was recommended/tested by
AMD for the K6, and it wouldn't make it as far as my Asus.
Here's what I've tried (and I've copied yours, as I will any others I see
here, so if someone wants to see the list later, I'll certainly have a
copy...) (the cooler I'm using is the one recommended for the K6-266, which
has a larger heatsink area, and moves over 2X the air the one recommended for
the K6-200 does...) (I'm trying to stick with 430HX chipsets because of the
>64M caching ability...)
CPU Model: AMD K6-200
Motherboard: Asus P/I P55T2P4 3.10 (4 Month Old)
Chipset: 430HX
L2 Cache: 512K Pipeline Burst
System Memory: 96MB EDO
HD Controller: Asus SC200 (NCR 53C810)
Hard Drives: Seagate ST3255N, HPSW30PN
Bios: Award 0203, 0204-7
Switching/Linear VR: Switching
HS Grease Applied: Yes
Fan Type: CoolerMaster TI5-602525
Make World: Fails after 1-1.5 hours
General FreeBSD Stuff: no problems
FreeBSD Version: 2.2.2-stable
CPU Model: AMD K6-200
Motherboard: Asus P/I P55T2P4 3.10 (New)
Chipset: 430HX
L2 Cache: 512K Pipeline Burst
System Memory: 96MB EDO
HD Controller: Asus SC200 (NCR 53C810)
Hard Drives: Seagate ST3255N, HPSW30PN
Bios: Award 0203
Switching/Linear VR: Switching
HS Grease Applied: Yes
Fan Type: CoolerMaster TI5-602525
Make World: Fails after 1-1.5 hours
General FreeBSD Stuff: no problems
FreeBSD Version: 2.2.2-stable
CPU Model: AMD K6-200
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-586HX 1.53(?) (loaner) (AMD tested list)
Chipset: 430HX
L2 Cache: 512K Pipeline Burst
System Memory: 96MB EDO
HD Controller: Asus SC200 (NCR 53C810)
Hard Drives: Seagate ST3255N, HPSW30PN
Bios: Award (version/date unknown, later than reqd for K6)
Switching/Linear VR: Linear
HS Grease Applied: Yes
Fan Type: CoolerMaster TI5-602525
Make World: Fails after 20 minutes
General FreeBSD Stuff: no problems
FreeBSD Version: 2.2.2-stable
(I've tried all of the above with various bios settings, including the slowest
for memory, and disabling all the various 'turbo' options, increasing IO
recovery times, etc...)
--Mike
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