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Date:      Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:24:10 +1100
From:      Peter Jeremy <peterjeremy@optushome.com.au>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: syslog.conf syntax change (multiple program/host specifications)
Message-ID:  <20030215062410.GB60369@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <3E4D7C2B.DDFC9DBE@mindspring.com>
References:  <20030210114930.GB90800@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> <20030213174531.GZ83215@roark.gnf.org> <20030213184309.GA53098@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> <200302141100.23529.wes@softweyr.com> <p05200f15ba72fb31e177@[128.113.24.47]> <20030214220145.GM83215@roark.gnf.org> <3E4D7C2B.DDFC9DBE@mindspring.com>

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On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 03:30:51PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote:
>Only newsyslog is stupid.
>
>No matter what options you gave it, the first thing it would do is
>the moral equivalent of -F.
>
>So instead of a 60M Samba log file "/var/log/samba", you ended up
>with a "/var/log/samba.1" that was 60M, and a "/var/log/samba"
>that was empty.

I'm not sure this is "stupid" in all cases.  Definitely, if you have
the situation where newsyslog fails to run for an extended period,
this is a problem.  OTOH, if syslog is running normally and there
is a massive burst of log activity (eg an attack) then you could
lose older logs.  This might make it easier for an attacker to
destroy evidence of what they did - you know something happened
because you have a pile of syslogs full of rubbish, but you don't
know exactly what because the earliest syslogs have rotated out
of existence.

Peter

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