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Date:      Sat, 8 Sep 2001 15:37:00 -0700
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        D J Hawkey Jr <hawkeyd@visi.com>
Cc:        Alexander Langer <alex@big.endian.de>, deepak@ai.net, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Kernel-loadable Root Kits
Message-ID:  <20010908153700.B72780@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <20010908102816.B77764@sheol.localdomain>; from hawkeyd@visi.com on Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 10:28:16AM -0500
References:  <GPEOJKGHAMKFIOMAGMDIGEHGFHAA.deepak_ai.net@ns.sol.net> <200109081052.f88AqRG30016@sheol.localdomain> <20010908141700.A53738@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> <20010908072542.A57605@sheol.localdomain> <20010908143231.A53801@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> <20010908074445.A77252@sheol.localdomain> <20010908181537.A840@ringworld.oblivion.bg> <20010908102816.B77764@sheol.localdomain>

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On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 10:28:16AM -0500, D J Hawkey Jr wrote:

> Q: Can the kernel be "forced" to load a module from within itself? That
> is, does a cracker need to be in userland?

If you're at securelevel 1 or higher, you shouldn't be able to cause
untrusted code to be loaded by the kernel by "legal" means, only by
"illegal" means such as exploiting kernel buffer overflows and other
bugs which may exist.

Kris

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