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Date:      Thu, 3 Dec 1998 11:31:46 +1100 (EST)
From:      "Daniel O'Callaghan" <danny@hilink.com.au>
To:        jonathan michaels <jon@caamora.com.au>
Cc:        freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: network time and host synchronisation
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.981203092626.15529A-100000@enya.hilink.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <19981130181836.D15528@caamora.com.au>

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Many ISPs set their routers to use NTP and you can take time from nearby
ones, if you feel they are accurate enough.  To see what routers  might be
using NTP, try 'traceroute www.telstra.net' and then use the command 
'xntpdc -p possible.ntp.host' for each hop.

Danny

e.g.
helium: {22} traceroute www.telstra.net.
traceroute to www.telstra.net (139.130.204.2), 30 hops max, 40 byte
packets
 1  legend (203.8.14.121)  0.607 ms  0.786 ms  0.506 ms
 2  bur-gw (203.8.14.119)  1.995 ms  8.214 ms  1.876 ms
 3  serial2-1.bdr0.mel.paradox.net.au (202.61.240.145)  22.479 ms  10.687
ms  28.301 ms
 4  fe0-0.core0.mel.paradox.net.au (202.61.240.62)  12.906 ms  18.584 ms
10.901


helium: {23} xntpdc -p 202.61.240.145
xntpdc: read: : Connection refused
helium: {24} xntpdc -p 202.61.240.62
     remote           local      st poll reach  delay   offset    disp
=======================================================================
*tictoc.tip.CSIR 202.61.248.162   1  512  377 0.07129 -0.014908 0.03447


OR

phoenix# traceroute www.telstra.net.
traceroute to www.telstra.net (139.130.204.2): 1-30 hops, 38 byte packets
 1  border-ed3.gw.aus.net (203.29.224.30)  1.52 ms  1.17 ms  1.14 ms
 2  gw-eth0.gw.aus.net (203.8.15.9)  2.22 ms  2.70 ms  2.42 ms
 3  Serial5-4.lon3.Melbourne.telstra.net (139.130.4.25)  19.9 ms  23.4 ms
13.3 ms
 4  Fddi0-0.lon-core2.Melbourne.telstra.net (139.130.239.227)  10.7 ms
(ttl=251!)  53.4 ms (ttl=251!)  19.7 ms (ttl=251!)
 5  Hssi4-0-0.civ-core1.Canberra.telstra.net (139.130.239.174)  23.3 ms
(ttl=250

phoenix# xntpdc -p 139.130.4.25
     remote           local      st poll reach  delay   offset    disp
=======================================================================
=lon-core2.Melbo 0.0.0.0          3  256  377 0.00327  0.000523 0.00047
*lon-core1.Melbo 0.0.0.0          2  256  377 0.00208  0.000390 0.00191



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