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Date:      Mon, 27 Jul 2026 23:09:17 +0100
From:      Nuno Teixeira <eduardo@freebsd.org>
To:        Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Tomoaki AOKI <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp>,  Sulev-Madis Silber <freebsd-current-freebsd-org111@ketas.si.pri.ee>,  freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Tragic State of FreeBSD Audio/Sound
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> If you're experiencing "buzz" like I think you are then it's the same
> frame being queued
> over and over again to the DAC. Typically I've only seen that happen here
> when I
> have the kernel panic (we're not stopping audio DMA at this point, and
> I don't know
> why it's looping over.)
>
> <snip>
>
> Even in the year of our lord "LLMs are available" there's only so much
> one can do
> in long email threads; at some point bugs need reproducing, PRs need
> filing and
> developer / user time needs to happen. Let's be methodical about it to
> help out
> the sound folks in figuring it out.
>
>
>
> -adrian
>
>
Hello,

I usually linten to youtube when doing poudriere builds. Music helps the
process and poudriere build better.

I use an usb dac with:

hw.snd.latency=10
hw.usb.uaudio.buffer_ms=8

IMHO it helps a little.

Thanks,

-- 
Nuno Teixeira
FreeBSD UNIX:  <eduardo@FreeBSD.org>   Web:  https://FreeBSD.org

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<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
If you&#39;re experiencing &quot;buzz&quot; like I think you are then it&#39;s the same<br>
frame being queued<br>
over and over again to the DAC. Typically I&#39;ve only seen that happen here when I<br>
have the kernel panic (we&#39;re not stopping audio DMA at this point, and<br>
I don&#39;t know<br>
why it&#39;s looping over.)<br><br></div>&lt;snip&gt;<div><br>
Even in the year of our lord &quot;LLMs are available&quot; there&#39;s only so much<br>
one can do<br>
in long email threads; at some point bugs need reproducing, PRs need filing and<br>
developer / user time needs to happen. Let&#39;s be methodical about it to help out<br>
the sound folks in figuring it out.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-adrian<br>
<br>
</div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>Hello,<br><br></div><div>I usually linten to youtube when doing poudriere builds. Music helps the process and poudriere build better.<br><br></div><div>I use an usb dac with:<br><br>hw.snd.latency=10<br>hw.usb.uaudio.buffer_ms=8<br><br></div><div>IMHO it helps a little.<br><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><br><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font color="#888888">Nuno Teixeira</font></div><div><div><font color="#888888">
FreeBSD UNIX:  &lt;eduardo@FreeBSD.org&gt;   Web:  <a href="https://FreeBSD.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://FreeBSD.org</a><br></font></div></div></div></div></div>;
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