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Date:      Thu, 28 Feb 2002 03:00:07 -0800 (PST)
From:      Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net>
To:        freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: conf/35371: /etc/rc virecover script starts sendmail even if sendmail should be off
Message-ID:  <200202281100.g1SB07v70661@freefall.freebsd.org>

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The following reply was made to PR conf/35371; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net>
To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org
Cc:  
Subject: Re: conf/35371: /etc/rc virecover script starts sendmail even if sendmail should be off
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 12:59:26 +0200

 Oof; let GNATS know about this, too..
 
 ----- Forwarded message from Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net> -----
 
 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 12:56:31 +0200
 From: Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net>
 To: Michael Wardle <michael@endbracket.net>
 Cc: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org
 Subject: Re: conf/35371: /etc/rc virecover script starts sendmail even if sendmail should be off
 Mail-Followup-To: Michael Wardle <michael@endbracket.net>,
 	freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org
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 In-Reply-To: <200202281020.g1SAK2R65822@freefall.freebsd.org>; from michael@endbracket.net on Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 02:20:02AM -0800
 
 On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 02:20:02AM -0800, Michael Wardle wrote:
 > The following reply was made to PR conf/35371; it has been noted by GNATS.
 > 
 > From: Michael Wardle <michael@endbracket.net>
 > To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
 > Cc:  
 > Subject: Re: conf/35371: /etc/rc virecover script starts sendmail even if sendmail should be off
 > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 02:18:51 -0800 (PST)
 > 
 >  1) shouldn't we test to see if sendmail is installed before calling it?
 
 /usr/sbin/sendmail is simply a symlink to mailwrapper(8); see below.
 
 >  2) shouldn't it be possible to disable calling "sendmail" (particularly
 >     if ${sendmail_enable} is NO)?
 
 Yes, edit your mailer.conf to run e.g. /bin/true when /usr/sbin/sendmail
 is invoked :)
 
 >  3) is there any reason why we shouldn't call "mail" instead of
 >     "sendmail"? (admittedly, i don't know too much about these
 >  utilities,
 >     but I thought it would be preferred to invoke a MUA rather than an
 >     MTA if all we wanted to do was send a message)
 
 With the arguments it is invoked, sendmail would actually function
 as a MUA; any sendmail wrappers installed by ports (e.g. qmail's
 /var/qmail/bin/sendmail) would recognize that and act appropriately.
 
 >  4) if we're going to call an MTA rather than an MUA, shouldn't we at
 >     least test whether it's already running
 >     (i don't think it's correct to invoke what seems to be a system
 >      utility (usually invoked as a daemon) from a shell script in this
 >      way -- i could be wrong) 
 
 We are not running it as an MTA; we are only calling it as a MUA,
 all it is supposed to do is (somehow) queue a message for delivery
 by the actual system MTA.
 
 >  5) shouldn't we call whatever MTA the user has configured (e.g.
 >     sendmail, postfix, exim, qmail)?
 
 Invoking /usr/sbin/sendmail actually invokes mailwrapper(8) under
 the name of 'sendmail'; that is, it is exactly what you want -
 invoking whatever MTA the user has chosen to install.
 
 I suspect that a large part of the confusion here is caused by
 the fact that sendmail may function as an MTA, MUA or even simply
 an MSA, depending on its command-line arguments.
 
 G'luck,
 Peter
 
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