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Date:      Tue, 12 Jun 2018 14:05:44 -0400
From:      Mark Johnston <markj@freebsd.org>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: specifying alignment of loader files
Message-ID:  <20180612180544.GG56138@raichu>
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On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:55:27AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:51 AM, Mark Johnston <markj@freebsd.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:45:01AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Mark Johnston <markj@freebsd.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:11:25AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:04 AM, Mark Johnston <markj@freebsd.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm writing some code which processes a file loaded by the
> > loader.  I
> > > > > > want the file's contents to be available at a certain alignment in
> > > > > > memory, and as far as I can see, the loader provides no alignment
> > > > > > guarantees today.  The access will happen early enough during boot
> > that
> > > > > > making an aligned copy of the data will be awkward, so I'd like the
> > > > > > loader to provide the desired alignment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm considering adding a new "module_align" variable that would
> > specify
> > > > > > the alignment for a given file type, and plumb that through to
> > > > > > command_load().  Does anyone have an alternate suggestion, or an
> > > > > > objection to my proposal?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought the loader already did that for ELF sections... Why not
> > wrap
> > > > your
> > > > > file in such a segment?
> > > >
> > > > In this case it's a raw binary file (CPU microcode), and I want to be
> > > > able to load it without any modifications or wrappers.
> > > >
> > >
> > > How do you identify the type then? I'm ok in theory with this (though a
> > > variable is more flexible than needed), but that's my main concern.
> > What's
> > > the alignment required btw?
> >
> > It'd be a property of the type, e.g.,
> >
> > cpu_ucode_name=/boot/firmware/...
> > cpu_ucode_align=16
> >
> > I do feel like having a separate variable is overkill, but I can't see
> > a less invasive solution that isn't hacky.
> >
> > The required alignment for Intel is 16 bytes; I'm not yet sure whether
> > AMD has a required alignment.
> >
> 
> OK. That seems sane. I was thinking it was more general than this, but I'm
> cool with what you've outlined.
> 
> OTOH, wouldn't just loading all files on page boundaries suffice?

It would (and that's actually what I did in my test branch).  We
already have to do this for ELF, and the only other frequently loaded
file I can think of is /boot/entropy.  Can you think of any scenarios
where forcing page alignment for all files would waste a substantial
amount of memory?  If not, I might just go ahead with that approach for
now and wait for a good reason before introducing customizable
alignments.



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