Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2019 10:13:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg <feenberg@nber.org> To: Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh@kathe.in> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sending Tcsh to packages/ports ... Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.1903291007120.12310@mail2.nber.org> In-Reply-To: <869a55f05dde045b1947f53ce3c5851f@kathe.in> References: <64780f09d4251b9641e3bca39000ae2d@kathe.in> <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.1903290725040.71125@mail2.nber.org> <869a55f05dde045b1947f53ce3c5851f@kathe.in>
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On Fri, 29 Mar 2019, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > On 2019-03-29 04:59 PM, Daniel Feenberg wrote: >> On Fri, 29 Mar 2019, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: >> >> ed and csh are important for those that use them. I use both, not >> always, but enough to see the importance of keeping them in the OS. >> There is a fallacious style of argument that decodes to "If a is >> better than b, then b is no good and it is a sign of bad character to >> use b". There are many cases where the transition costs of moving to >> different dependencies will be significant, especially for less well >> informed users. > > What if you had access to your preferred tools via packages/ports? I spend a fair amount of time helping people with computers I don't control and often they don't fully control them either. Having basic tools available in the OS allows me to help, even if it isn't the latest and best. I can't (or at least don't want to) install a new editor or shell on their computer, but if I need to modify fstab. ed is there, I can always use that - even if the terminal is wonky. Daniel Feenberg > > ~Mayuresh >
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