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Date:      Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:23:02 +0200
From:      Matthias Schuendehuette <msch@snafu.de>
To:        "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: ATA Atapi 4.6 Release
Message-ID:  <E17KJst-0003up-00@smart.eusc.inter.net>

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Hello all,

I haven't read the whole thread so far, but...

I would encourage some posters to cool down a bit. There are only a few 
types of ATA-Disks that support Tagged Queuing and they all work with 
Write Cache nearly as fast as with WC+TQ.

I made some comparison (admittedly with a SCSI-Disk :-) between TQ and 
WC and I found out, that, when copying the whole ports-tree f.i., TQ 
and WC have nearly the same performance gain and TQ+WC adds another 10% 
performance... so, no big deal IMHO.

Of course, safety is another point, and I prefer TQ over WC exactly 
because of this! But - to be honest - I prefer SCSI over ATA because of 
this ;-)

So, in the end I think it's a at least possible decision to release 4.6 
with ATA 'as is'. It's switched off by default and shouldn't frustrate 
any new users. It should be stated clearly and 'loud', that ATA Tagged 
Queuing in not working on many chipsets and that the situation is 
expected to improve during 4.6-STABLE.

And BTW: I don't think that it's helpful to focus on that ATA TQ-Issue 
so hard and to imply (at least between the lines of some postings) that 
Soren's driver is all crap. It's obviously the best driver we *have* 
and obviously the most knowledgeable ATA-Programmer who's working for 
'our' FreeBSD and we should appreciate that.
-- 
Ciao/BSD - Matthias

Matthias Schuendehuette	<msch@snafu.de>, Berlin (Germany)
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