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Date:      Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:29:51 -0700 (MST)
From:      Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
To:        e8917523@antares.linf.unb.br (Daniel C. Sobral)
Cc:        hackers@freefall.freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: IDE
Message-ID:  <199607172229.PAA05703@phaeton.artisoft.com>
In-Reply-To: <9607171231.AA25214@antares.linf.unb.br> from "Daniel C. Sobral" at Jul 17, 96 08:32:40 am

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> > Are you not in the US?
> 
> *I* am not. Does this mean I'm not relevant? I thought FreeBSD took
> outside US customers seriously.

It has to do with his reference frame, not preferential market
treatment.

> > IDE mainboards still only support 2 devices, which is not enough IDE
> > devices for many folks.
> 
> You haven't been using IDE lately, right? Most mainboards, specially
> Pentium ones, now comes with primary _and_ secondary IDE builtin. That's
> four devices.

Do they use one of the two popular non-buggy IDE chipsets, or do
they use one of the three popular buggy ones?

If you have to replace the controller, it's going to cost you to use
either interface.

> And the $60 secondary IDE you mentioned costed me $25. Actually, it's a
> primary and secondary IDE board.

Is this the one wir without the buffers?  If without, then you will
have to "dumb-down" you machine to make it work.

> I'd suggest stopping this non-sense about prices. I'm sure most people
> here (who doesn't have SCSI) would buy SCSI devices if they could. And
> even if that was not the case, that's simply no excuse for lame drivers.

The excuse for lame IDE drivers is that people who have IDE devices
don't write many drivers... or they wouldn't be lame.

Anyone with hardware who is not happy with the hardware support they
are getting should feel free to code up replacements.

I personally do not run IDE, nor will I buy IDE simply to enable
me to write drivers to enable someone else to run it.

					Regards,
					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.



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