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Date:      Mon, 16 Oct 2000 10:45:28 -0400
From:      "Cribbins, Jason" <Jason.Cribbins@qwest.com>
To:        Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>
Cc:        freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: Newbies web page [was: -newbies]
Message-ID:  <9D35FA2F8EFCD111BA5A00805FA75E87084645FF@fdntx001>

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I may be mistaken but I believe about 2 years ago you were the one who
replied to a question I posted to -questions and told me that my question
was of a beginner question which should be posted to -newbies.  You stated
-questions was for experienced users with very technical questions (not
exact quote...was long time ago but that's what I took from the message).

What exactly is the purpose of -newbies then.  Is it different then it was
back when I started out? or is it the same and I was
misdirected/misunderstood the list usage.


For the Record:
My question was about hardware compatibility with FreeBSD 2.2.5.  The
question was never answered in -questions because it seemed -newbies was
brand new and they wanted everyone to get everyone in the habit of using
-newbies for such questions. -newbies offered answers to my questions
although it wasn't what I wanted to hear.  I have been away from FreeBSD
until 3.3 when I bought a CDROM then never it.  Recently I installed 4.0
from FTP and am currently playing with 4.1 and 4.1.1 to get the
computability I need.  I have less than 6 months of composite experience
using this or any Unix like system over that time so I do consider myself a
"new user" but no longer an "extreme beginner."

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
[mailto:owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Sue Blake
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 1:41 PM
To: Rick Hamell
Cc: Joe Warner; freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Newbies web page [was: -newbies]


(First, I'd like to request that freebsd-chat be removed from the
headers of replies. This is a freebsd-newbies discussion, and newbies
might not realise that posting to several lists at once is generally
discouraged. FreeBSD-chat is mostly for non-FreeBSD chat that spills
over from the technical lists where it becomes off topic there.)

On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 07:52:00AM +0000, Rick Hamell wrote:
> 
> (and someone else wrote...)
> 
> > Maybe it would help if Sue's "FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit" was
> > posted more often?

When you join -newbies you get a brief run-down, and then the FAK
is posted once a week. What do you want, daily?

> 	Yes, we also should try to get the -newbies Web Page updated...
> http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.

All you need to do is send me ideas for change, and it'll be done.
I've mentioned this to newbies over and over. Nobody has ever done so!!

We do need to have a central starting point for newbies on the FreeBSD
web site. While I've received many notes of appreciation, the support
for this, in terms of contributions suggestions or ideas, has been
consistently underwhelming.

You guys have to learn that you are not consumers. You get what you
want by collaborating on it and then getting up and _doing_ it, or
at least helping out those who are already doing stuff.
This is the real world. You don't have no Mummy round no more.
Live with it. Learn to thrive on it.

-- 

Regards,
        -*Sue*-
 
 


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