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Date:      Thu, 18 Sep 2003 10:03:11 -0500
From:      Dan Nelson <dnelson@allantgroup.com>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD. ORG" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: TCP information
Message-ID:  <20030918150311.GG51544@dan.emsphone.com>
In-Reply-To: <3F6975BD.14CD05EE@mindspring.com>
References:  <GPEOJKGHAMKFIOMAGMDIMEHHELAC.deepak@ai.net> <3F6975BD.14CD05EE@mindspring.com>

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In the last episode (Sep 18), Terry Lambert said:
> Deepak Jain wrote:
> > Is there a utility/hack/patch that would allow a diligent sysadmin
> > to obtain which specific TCP connections are generating retransmits
> > and receiving packet drops? netstat will show me drops on an
> > interface, but not on a specific source/dest pair?
> 
> These types of statistics aren't kept.
> 
> They usually do not make it into commercial product distributions for
> performance reasons, and because every byte added to a tcpcb
> structure is one byte less that can be used for something else. In
> practice, adding 134 bytes of statistics to a tcpcb would double its
> size and halve the number of simultaneous connections you would be
> able to support with the same amount of RAM in a given machine (as
> one example), if all of that memory had to come out of the same
> space, all other things being equal.

tcpcb is currently 236 bytes though, and I don't imagine adding another
8 bytes for an unsigned long "dropped packets" counter is going to kill
him.

Deepak: if you really want stats, try adding a struct tcpstat to tcpcb
and hack all the netinet/tcp* code to update those whenever the global
tcpstat gets updated.  You'll get all the info that netstat -s prints,
for each socket.  *That* will definitely double the size of struct tcpcb :)

-- 
	Dan Nelson
	dnelson@allantgroup.com



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