Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 20:34:31 -0500 (CDT) From: "Valeri Galtsev" <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> To: "Walter" <fbsd@saveouraquifer.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: minder Message-ID: <57856.76.192.184.214.1413423271.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <543F12EF.8020207@saveouraquifer.org> References: <543ED1D6.3000500@saveouraquifer.org> <543ED8C1.9090508@gmail.com> <543EF466.3070908@saveouraquifer.org> <543F0C42.1060401@gmail.com> <543F12EF.8020207@saveouraquifer.org>
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On Wed, October 15, 2014 7:35 pm, Walter wrote: > On 10/15/14, 8:07 PM, Rolf Nielsen wrote: >> On 2014-10-16 00:25, Walter wrote: >> > On 10/15/14, 4:27 PM, Rolf Nielsen wrote: >> >> On 2014-10-15 21:58, Walter wrote: >> >>> but it's hard to know how useful these are without trying them >> >>> all, and I'm hoping people here can guide me. Ultimately, I'm >> >>> interested in secure, encrypted p2p operations starting with >> >>> basic messaging, which will run on Windows-something, Mac, and >> >>> Linux (BSD) OS's. >> >> >> >> And just as pear is a flavour of apple, BSD is really a flavour >> >> of Linux... Right? >> > I may run BSD on some servers, but most people run Linux with a >> > desktop. And if it runs on Linux, it will likely run under BSD. >> >> > Or am I wrong on that? Or that most people use Linux over BSD? >> >> > Walter >> >> That wasn't my point. My point was that the form "Linux (BSD)" is >> dangerously close to calling BSD a Linux distro, which it isn't. > I'll try to be clearer then: I know the BSD's are not Linux distributions. > I know FreeBSD is it's own OS. But I also know FreeBSD has a Linux > compatibility layer, where it can run Linux programs. Maybe not all > of them, but at least some. > > Desktop Operating System Market Share: > http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0 > Windows 7 > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+7&qpcustomb=0>; > 52.71% > Market Share of Windows XP > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+XP&qpcustomb=0>; > Windows > XP > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+XP&qpcustomb=0>; > 23.87% > Market Share of Windows 8.1 > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+8.1&qpcustomb=0>; > Windows > 8.1 > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+8.1&qpcustomb=0>; > 6.67% > Market Share of Windows 8 > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+8&qpcustomb=0>; > Windows > 8 > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+8&qpcustomb=0>; > 5.59% > Market Share of Mac OS X 10.9 > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.9&qpcustomb=0>; > Mac > OS X 10.9 > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.9&qpcustomb=0>; > 4.05% > Market Share of Windows Vista > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+Vista&qpcustomb=0>; > Windows > Vista > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+Vista&qpcustomb=0>; > 3.07% > Market Share of Linux > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Linux&qpcustomb=0>; > Linux > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Linux&qpcustomb=0>; > 1.64% > Market Share of Mac OS X 10.6 > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.6&qpcustomb=0>; > Mac > OS X 10.6 > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.6&qpcustomb=0>; > 0.74% > Market Share of Mac OS X 10.8 > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.8&qpcustomb=0>; > Mac > OS X 10.8 > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.8&qpcustomb=0>; > 0.60% > Market Share of Mac OS X 10.7 > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.7&qpcustomb=0>; > Mac > OS X 10.7 > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.7&qpcustomb=0>; > 0.57% > Market Share of Mac OS X 10.1 > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.1&qpcustomb=0>; > Mac > OS X 10.1 > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.1&qpcustomb=0>; > 0.25% > Market Share of Mac OS X 10.5 > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.5&qpcustomb=0>; > Mac > OS X 10.5 > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.5&qpcustomb=0>; > 0.14% > Market Share of Windows NT > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+NT&qpcustomb=0>; > Windows > NT > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+NT&qpcustomb=0>; > 0.05% > Market Share of Mac OS X 10.4 > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.4&qpcustomb=0>; > Mac > OS X 10.4 > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+10.4&qpcustomb=0>; > 0.04% > Market Share of Windows 2000 > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+2000&qpcustomb=0>; > Windows > 2000 > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+2000&qpcustomb=0>; > 0.02% > Market Share of Mac OS X (no version reported) > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+%28no+version+reported%29&qpcustomb=0>; > Mac > OS X (no version reported) > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Mac+OS+X+%28no+version+reported%29&qpcustomb=0>; > 0.01% > Market Share of Win64 > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Win64&qpcustomb=0>; > Win64 > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Win64&qpcustomb=0>; > 0.00% > Market Share of Windows 98 > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+98&qpcustomb=0>; > Windows > 98 > <http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Windows+98&qpcustomb=0>; > > > > Linux has 1.64% market share, but no flavor of BSD makes the list. > I don't think saying Linux is more popular should be a major point of > contention. > > So, my thinking is that if a family of an application runs on Windows, > Mac, and Linux, it would be popular enough not to die out, and > likely to get all the bugs ironed out. AND, if it runs on Linux, FreeBSD > will likely run it too; that's what I meant by my poorly written words > "Linux (BSD)." > > So, can someone help me with a URL to find Minder documentation, and > can I elicit experiences with BitMessage, RetroShare, OpenDC, and the > like. > I'll be starting with FreeBSD and Mac but intend to add Windows and would > like to include Linux also. Thanks. > Who is the provider of information? Oh, it is [hell, who knows them].com How that data has been collected? Oh, yes, I see, they are bases on Windoze themselves (you see .aspx, do you?). Do you really think any serious server in the World can be based on Windoze. Well, M$ itself had a bunch of servers running under FreeBSD. So it is kind of clear they can not be taken seriously. And I kind of know who pays for the "information" presented, and I'm not surprised to see what I see. Certainly they didn't count my FreeBSD workstation and laptop. Not to mention a bunch of FreeBSD servers ;-) Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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