Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:11:50 -0400 From: Bill Moran <wmoran@iowna.com> Cc: Sung Nae Cho <sucho2@quasar.phys.vt.edu>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD needs to awake and come out of SERVER only market! Message-ID: <3B5E00B6.C623CB5C@iowna.com> References: <DBEMKGPNFGOGJHLMDNDJGEBHCHAA.mitayai@dreaming.org>
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> I don't care what you (people who are so stuck up with > stability) think, Then why did you email us? > I use FreeBSD as a desktop and I need performance! I use FreeBSD on my desktop as well - and I have performance. FreeBSD boots faster than Linux or Win, and in general I find it to be as fast, if not faster, than anything else I've used. What in the Sam Hill are you complaining about? I've never seen a performance comparison that showed FreeBSD noticably slower than anything else. After tuning, FreeBSD *was* faster than NT, Linux and Solaris in those recent tests. > I > have "async" otpion turned on in my /etc/fstab, I'm glad the FreeBSD by > default enables the write cache for my hard disks. You know, you can turn on anything you want to speed things up, that's the power that any UNIX gives you. > Come on, wake up! The community is awake. > FreeBSD is no longer for some dorky server administrator who does nothing > but chewing on snickers bar sitting in corner of some room full of racks > and HDD's. Interesting steriotype. > And, I bet most people use FreeBSD for desktop use, not as > server use! Bet all you want, until you take an actual survey I don't care. Your guesses aren't important to me. > I've shut down the computer by plugging the power plug out > just because I was upset or not in the moeed You may want to consider anger counseling. > I've never had any of my > files, emails or anything like that being lost due to cold shutting my > computer. Then what are you complaining about? > I'm sick of this server administrators always crying for > stability. Then don't listen to them. > If FreeBSD won't take use of all the capabilities offered in > todays hard drives, I won't be using it! I'll switch right over to Linux. That's your decision. However, if you were anywhere near intelligent, you'd realize that this is open-source development and you'd change your statement to, "If FreeBSD won't take use of all the capabilities offered in todays hard drives, I'll write code that makes it take advantage of those capabilities and submit it to the source tree myself!" > Come on, desktop is the king and FreeBSD should focus itself evolving in > desktop market. FreeBSD is not dominated by any "market". FreeBSD development is controlled by what the people who are willing to write the code want to make it do. If you're interested in satisfying a particular "market", use Windows, they did everything within their power to focus on the "desktop market". > If you gonna whine about stability, go back to FreeBSD > 2.x, 3.x. Uhhh ... the only whining I've seen is coming from you. > For me, FreeBSD 4.x, 5.x should be more desktop oriented, and > desktops need performance!!!!! Well then, why don't you cut your own release with the default settings changed, or help contribute code to make options in sysinstall for "desktop optimized" and "server optimized". In other words, put your code where your mouth is. If you're not willing to put your code there, please put something there to shut it up. Very effective troll, by the way. I normally ignore things like this, but I couldn't restrain myself from this one. -Bill -- It may be that true happiness is nothing more than the ability to *always* know the right thing to say at the right time, whereas true misery is the state of perpetually saying to oneself, "What I *should* have said was..." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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