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Date:      Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:24:31 +0000 (UTC)
From:      Christopher Nehren <apeiron+usenet@coitusmentis.info>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: inetd vs standalone daemon
Message-ID:  <slrnd4e5ni.lg6.apeiron%2Busenet@prophecy.dyndns.org>
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On 2005-03-27, Gert Cuykens scribbled these
curious markings:
> So how do we remove it from freebsd ? Please let it be a pkg_delete :)
> If not witch freebsd source developer do i need to pull his leg to
> remove it from source into a pkg ?

Here's a bit of basic information about FreeBSD. Despite what you may
have learned about Linux, having every single file in the system
managed by a package is *NOT* a good idea[1]. You end up with systems
lacking compilers[2] that way, which confuse new users who try to build
software. inetd is not part of any package, and I hope that it never
will be. inetd is part of FreeBSD's base system -- the collection of
software, documentation, &c. that the FreeBSD group maintains on their
own, separate from the Ports Collection which is (for the most part)
composed entirely of third-party software.

I will admit that this doesn't permit for the granularity available in
Linux distributions. But personally, I don't want that sort of
granularity. I don't want to have to *worry* about installing a
compiler, OpenSSL, and the like. I just want to tell it to install
everything and have it *actually* install everything.

If you want to make a fully package-based version of FreeBSD, where
everything from /bin/ls to /usr/sbin/inetd is a package, then by all
means do so. You won't even be alone in your desire. I seem to remember
a group of people vocalising a request for this a while ago. You'll
never be able to count me as a user, though. :)

[1]: I'm not exactly pleased with the "distributions" concept when you
install, but since I always select "All" anyway, it's a moot point I
suppose.

[2]: And other crucial things like OpenSSL, which even crops up on
FreeBSD from time to time.

Best Regards,
Christopher Nehren
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pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson
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