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Date:      Wed, 05 Aug 1998 19:32:05 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
To:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
Cc:        security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Does this mean we have another breakin? 
Message-ID:  <199808060132.TAA09251@harmony.village.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 05 Aug 1998 10:27:30 MDT." <199808051643.KAA04281@lariat.lariat.org> 
References:  <199808051643.KAA04281@lariat.lariat.org>  

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In message <199808051643.KAA04281@lariat.lariat.org> Brett Glass writes:
: < -r-xr-sr-x  2 root  tty       225280 Jul 22 02:13:13 1998 /sbin/restore
: ---
: > -r-xr-sr-x  2 root  tty       225280 Aug  4 15:00:14 1998 /sbin/restore
: Does this mean we have intruders? I think I might have *run* restore at
: that time as root, but didn't think it was self-modifying.

Sicne the sizes are the same, this is a well known bug in the changing
of the modification time spontaneously.  The security program should
keep a md5 database of files instead.

The Spontaneous Crash should be looked into, but it does sound much
like the David Rivers Memorial Crash[tm] which is both well known and
hard to fix.

Warner

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