Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 10:47:03 -0500 From: Steve Wills <swills@FreeBSD.org> To: Franco Fichtner <franco@lastsummer.de> Cc: scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports <ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Message-ID: <451770c6-f2d3-6ca4-183e-532ea5f1ee89@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <AE0D514C-D235-462D-B31D-66FC619D9F4D@lastsummer.de> References: <dvvl9chf9h22dpjto35d44enid819p9rnc@4ax.com> <h91m9cpbmp6js1km1bson74he5uuui9r6h@4ax.com> <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <ndjm9cl4samqgioi25ro8p2q6liimvr1h4@4ax.com> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <AE0D514C-D235-462D-B31D-66FC619D9F4D@lastsummer.de>
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This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --g8fPlrIkHW6uWSK4knSrhLMV79nQfLC40 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="TiknjvI6WQKpjT2Jqvau7HgAaMawOlgxW"; protected-headers="v1" From: Steve Wills <swills@FreeBSD.org> To: Franco Fichtner <franco@lastsummer.de> Cc: scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports <ports@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <451770c6-f2d3-6ca4-183e-532ea5f1ee89@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! References: <dvvl9chf9h22dpjto35d44enid819p9rnc@4ax.com> <h91m9cpbmp6js1km1bson74he5uuui9r6h@4ax.com> <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <ndjm9cl4samqgioi25ro8p2q6liimvr1h4@4ax.com> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <AE0D514C-D235-462D-B31D-66FC619D9F4D@lastsummer.de> In-Reply-To: <AE0D514C-D235-462D-B31D-66FC619D9F4D@lastsummer.de> --TiknjvI6WQKpjT2Jqvau7HgAaMawOlgxW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On 02/09/2017 10:30, Franco Fichtner wrote: > Hi Steve, >=20 >> On 9 Feb 2017, at 4:09 PM, Steve Wills <swills@freebsd.org> wrote: >> >> Ports and packages are maintained on the assumption that the user is >> using a supported version of the OS. We didn't decide when to end >> support for 10.1 or 10.2. How long after the end of life for 10.1 woul= d >> you have ports maintain support? >=20 > The issue is quite simple and cause of multiple issues: >=20 > FreeBSD package management makes an ABI promise in the form of > "FreeBSD:10:amd64", but not even pkg code itself adheres to this, > and thus we have had subtle and yet fatal breakage in 10.2 and 10.3. >=20 > And since pkg acts according to the imposed paradigm of a unified > ABI, this will continue to be a source of problems for users who > cannot know what's going on, lest even know how to fix it. >=20 > They simply run: >=20 > # pkg upgrade >=20 > And then their systems are unusable *and* not fixable with pkg. >=20 > What are they supposed to do? They come here. They want to make > everyone aware that this is a serious issue that shouldn't repeat > in FreeBSD 11. It's not to late to do that by pinning the pkg ABI > to 11.0 by forcing the proper feature macros. They're supposed to upgrade to a supported version of FreeBSD. Steve --TiknjvI6WQKpjT2Jqvau7HgAaMawOlgxW-- --g8fPlrIkHW6uWSK4knSrhLMV79nQfLC40 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGnBAEBCgCRFiEEmPpBSlwqDvnP0K0N9c9isyB7G6EFAlicjvdfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDk4 RkE0MTRBNUMyQTBFRjlDRkQwQUQwREY1Q0Y2MkIzMjA3QjFCQTETHHN3aWxsc0Bm cmVlYnNkLm9yZwAKCRD1z2KzIHsbofp9B/0Xg7gcHCShysnc1WqiuLTFGM7zadoz low2Dy5wJooXeEEB9LWSW7lrgDo2/80O570JyUyy+D8q7C0n5oHb9ZJL82LeEroW UsrEG0csz4St6YfbNpDuioCbK6vk8AOnnxPl6sKuWjgEI0klsm0kskPEkDeaGYR0 Xy4Tqm2Abb/hmTC4tHPJHVejZcesxl2JQr68BK/a8iAVFqJ98r2NXI8vFoQ8Zork kgGJNStTanop7sGNbwJvdfSrhT1qfqkRjlXfg63w7Uzy3NhXf33aj+GLCMV4SAfT 3p1yJkEPXwSzkRBlW63p4EWm8KQdd4gieHZH2gfrFlTRIO78dJUO1ma+ =xCKO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --g8fPlrIkHW6uWSK4knSrhLMV79nQfLC40--
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