Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2023 08:58:25 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> To: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Docker Message-ID: <f686b771-615a-d63d-53b8-27e950ef539a@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: <CAFYkXjk%2B6tx3rs1E_uZJdFHrxvOrGoVyPaX7mP5yqtV3U7ed=A@mail.gmail.com> References: <20230329053443.6ADA6B6AFED5@dhcp-8e64.meeting.ietf.org> <CA%2B1FSihVrJ8cZ4ZU6mMr0sKJsZ98V4fh2vpDLugw7MGj-%2BEBPg@mail.gmail.com> <CA%2B1FSijL50mQ-HveBA4HZeNkSoaORv=aty-15nNLzn9amzY_nw@mail.gmail.com> <6002f636-310b-a9fd-b82f-346618976983@timpreston.net> <CA%2B1FSigV_pPwVW%2BDd8WZYGcNQVt7%2BYOcsnJFoRhS6jL5A636pg@mail.gmail.com> <20230412150350.12f97eb2c9dd566b8c8702d2@sohara.org> <CA%2B1FSihVPCQ6tp8u=aqnLyyOPpCMrnhYGcC8bCUgRbFHTdY5sA@mail.gmail.com> <1535315680.2770963.1681309684072@mail.yahoo.com> <20230412155252.5e38ea4728bd52dc798852fc@sohara.org> <1d0a7ed1-9330-49df-9b66-9ee4387de511@app.fastmail.com> <8f3a86806377c2c92039eaf2765f5b85862de178.camel@riseup.net> <CA%2B1FSij0N-CRhMRXVUK81BWPTn0vDVcbQSF2Q11Zz%2BgJdL_Ddw@mail.gmail.com> <858859542.4652196.1681696294734@mail.yahoo.com> <92f6a9df-fd1e-9411-6093-fc8a145add17@tundraware.com> <CAMPTd_DnL2Wt_b0SDvUrciHTmTA7NSxDJh%2Be8LhO-RgJZ6AuKg@mail.gmail.com> <CAFYkXjk%2B6tx3rs1E_uZJdFHrxvOrGoVyPaX7mP5yqtV3U7ed=A@mail.gmail.com>
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On 4/16/23 23:57, Tomek CEDRO wrote: > hat messed up the once beautiful logical and coherent IT world With over 40 years in the tech business, I can say with confidence that this never actually existed. The closest we ever came to this was the "logical and coherent" world of IBM mainframes. While Unix existed fairly early on, commercial adoption of Microsoft operating systems took place years before Unix hit the mainstream. It is also worth nothing that Microsoft OSs are really two things tightly bound together: The kernel and the UI. The kernel is quite good these days. The UI is garbage. Steve Cutler - the guy who designed the framework for the modern kernel starting with NT - was a first class kernel designed who gave us VMS on DEC machines. If you want to know why the kernel and UI are so tightly coupled, read "Showstopper", his book on how NT was brought to life. It's a great read, however dated. P.S. Apple also insists on gluing their UI to the kernel but at least they don't change their UIs and workflows every 10 minutes ...
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