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Date:      Thu, 6 Feb 1997 00:08:55 -0500 (EST)
From:      Jamie Bowden <jamie@inna.net>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
Cc:        dg@root.com, spork@super-g.com, tqbf@enteract.com, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Blacklisting and being "asked" to deinstall FreeBSD - you heard that right! 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.91.970206000755.2597D-100000@tyger.inna.net>
In-Reply-To: <26186.855196650@time.cdrom.com>

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So what is this 'threat'?  And how severe is it?  I mean, sendmail has 
delivered remote root on demand in the last three releases, so how bad 
can this really be?

Jamie Bowden

Network Administrator, TBI Ltd.

On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

> > You made it VERY clear that either I play by YOUR rules or forget playing 
> > at all.  You represented this as the position of the ENTIRE core team.
> >
> >You lied about John Dyson's position on the issues; I talked to him
> >IMMEDIATELY after you hung up.  He said in no uncertain terms that he
> 
> I could respond to Karl on this, but I won't as it's obviously more
> than pointless by now.  Suffice it to say that I never even mentioned
> John Dyson during our phone conversation and did not claim to speak
> for all of core, so those who are wondering whether I've gone and
> crowned myself King can stop wondering.  Karl's summary of our phone
> conversation bears no resemblance to the reality of what actually took
> place and I rather wish I'd recorded it myself.  In any case...
> 
> Here is a summary of the *technical* situation at this time:
> 
> A 2.1.6 emergency machine has been built and is now rolling a 2.1.7
> release.  I'm also in the process of sending out a CERT advisory with
> fixes and David has already stayed up all night getting them into all
> 3 branches, so I think we're now in pretty good shape where this is
> concerned but will have more news tomorrow after the 2.1.7 build has
> finished (or not).
> 
> There is also a general security audit now underway, spearheaded
> by Paul Traina, and he's done a sign-up sheet for people willing to
> take a piece of /usr/src away and look at it for security problems
> (others who wish to cull the *BSD PR databases or investigate other
> sources also being more than welcome to take that approach).
> 
> Once it's finished being passed around in -core and some folks have
> signed up for various things, I'll post the roster here and we can
> search for volunteers to cover the missing bases.
> 
> I also think that a complete walk-through of our codebase is probably
> long overdue anyway, and this is a good chance for everyone to prove
> the old maxim that security begins at home (or was that charity? :-).
> Talk to me or security-officer@freebsd.org if you'd like to jump on
> board.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 					Jordan
> 



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