Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 20:37:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca> To: Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org> Cc: Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Andre Oppermann <andre@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: NewNFS vs. oldNFS for 10.0? Message-ID: <793530868.3962258.1363394273384.JavaMail.root@erie.cs.uoguelph.ca> In-Reply-To: <5143643D.3040609@mu.org>
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Alfred Perlstein wrote: > On 3/15/13 10:55 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > > On 15 March 2013 09:55, Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org> wrote: > > > >> Finally, I think it is really premature to declare a sunset for the > >> oldnfs > >> until the users are gushing with approval over the new system. > > The flipside to this argument (and coming from you is kind of > > amusing > > :-) is that without any kind of sunset time stated, companies won't > > push back or be forced to migrate, so they may stick with oldnfs for > > years to come. > > I have never in my entire career pushed for "breaking users in the > interest of forward progress." > > > > > > It sounds like your employer has made that choice, at least for the > > short term. Nothing in your email stated that you had filed bugs > > (but > > I'm sure you have), nor that you were dedicating any resources to > > help > > Rick and others iron out the bugs in NFSv4. > > People in my org have been working with NFS and reporting issues for > the > past year. I'm quite certain that Doug White has reported issues due > to > missing certain caching features of the old code. > You should get him to post w.r.t. his issues again. I must have missed or forgotten what they were. As far as I know, the client caching code is just a clone of what the oldNFS client does, although it's possible that some differences are there. If he/you are referring to the DRC in the server, then, yes, I am aware that work related to overheads/delays for TCP caching exists. rick > This is not indicative that newNFS is bad, just that it still needs > some > work. > > > > > So I'm all for sunsetting oldnfs by 10.x, and lighting a fire up > > peoples' asses to realise that stuff _needs_ to get debugged before > > 10.0 is cut, or they're going to be in for an even rougher ride in > > the > > future. > > > > > Sure, and how much NFS do you actually use and support exactly? > > -Alfred > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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