Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 07:02:18 -0400 From: Eric McCorkle <eric@metricspace.net> To: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> Cc: FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, freebsd-security <freebsd-security@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Status of OpenSSL 1.1.1 Message-ID: <b058b0ad-2e61-8756-b984-8a762e4a7925@metricspace.net> In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfqqHk1k_WuDHg3Tob2m-Egbns9X4jq5eAaQu1tzgz1nwA@mail.gmail.com> References: <b7b8a27c-b520-dcba-e7eb-fa3fa2d78083@metricspace.net> <CANCZdfpRSxKAvW=X2Fh5OM3ZxzkhPxC3ooOgLpogkMUdwpumRg@mail.gmail.com> <dc890dce-59b0-4647-268b-6035e8fbfd31@metricspace.net> <20180802234519.GD68224@kduck.kaduk.org> <CANCZdfqqHk1k_WuDHg3Tob2m-Egbns9X4jq5eAaQu1tzgz1nwA@mail.gmail.com>
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This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --3Jlf5EtgHrBUwuVED8RcynGXM8EBmN3FH Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="SgFMOIbWT0nMndG6NllvpPpohfXOlolaP"; protected-headers="v1" From: Eric McCorkle <eric@metricspace.net> To: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> Cc: FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, freebsd-security <freebsd-security@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <b058b0ad-2e61-8756-b984-8a762e4a7925@metricspace.net> Subject: Re: Status of OpenSSL 1.1.1 References: <b7b8a27c-b520-dcba-e7eb-fa3fa2d78083@metricspace.net> <CANCZdfpRSxKAvW=X2Fh5OM3ZxzkhPxC3ooOgLpogkMUdwpumRg@mail.gmail.com> <dc890dce-59b0-4647-268b-6035e8fbfd31@metricspace.net> <20180802234519.GD68224@kduck.kaduk.org> <CANCZdfqqHk1k_WuDHg3Tob2m-Egbns9X4jq5eAaQu1tzgz1nwA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfqqHk1k_WuDHg3Tob2m-Egbns9X4jq5eAaQu1tzgz1nwA@mail.gmail.com> --SgFMOIbWT0nMndG6NllvpPpohfXOlolaP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/03/2018 04:44, Warner Losh wrote: >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu > <mailto:kaduk@mit.edu>> wrote: >=20 > On Wed, Aug 01, 2018 at 10:05:28AM -0400, Eric McCorkle wrote: > > On 08/01/2018 09:02, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 12:31 PM Eric McCorkle > <eric@metricspace.net <mailto:eric@metricspace.net> > > > <mailto:eric@metricspace.net <mailto:eric@metricspace.net>>> wr= ote: > > > > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi folks, > > > > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I'm wondering what's the status of OpenSSL 1= =2E1.1 integration > into base? > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0More specifically, is there a repo or a bran= ch that's > started the > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0integration?=C2=A0 I'm aware of the wiki pag= e and the list of > port build > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0issues, but that seems to be based on replac= ing the base > OpenSSL with a > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0port build (similar to the way one replaces = it with LibreSSL). > > > > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I have some work I'd like to do that's gatin= g on sorting out the > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0kernel/loader crypto situation, and I'd very= much like to > see OpenSSL > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01.1.1 get merged, so I can start to look int= o doing that. > > > > > > > > > There are patches to use bear SSL for the loader. OpenSSL is > simply too > > > large to use due to limits the loader operates under. > > > > I was going to look into the feasibility of doing something like = what > > LibreSSL does with portable, where they extract a subset of the f= ull > > library designed to be embedded in the kernel, loader, etc. > > > > I think it ought to be possible to do something like that, but it= > really > > ought to be done in a tree with 1.1.1 integrated. > > >=20 > It wouldn't be terribly easy or effective, IMO.=C2=A0 OpenSSL wasn'= t designed > with such modularity in mind. >=20 >=20 > Others that have tried have found OpenSSL to be way too large for the > boot loader and a completely impossible to subset enough to get things > small enough due to the intertwingled nature of things. To what extent, if any, does this change in 1.1.1, though? --SgFMOIbWT0nMndG6NllvpPpohfXOlolaP-- --3Jlf5EtgHrBUwuVED8RcynGXM8EBmN3FH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEARYIAB0WIQQPGL/SuSPN3pRzpwUI38IpFsHCbAUCW2Q2OgAKCRAI38IpFsHC bHx7AQCF1Yu898/tbKfMJvXrPaJmDmV2wf66gtK5k+KJ1ulKmgEAuuXdSuUriYuK n3pc4P82OqfT9LnymaHfY6T9KM/6QAg= =tWx/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3Jlf5EtgHrBUwuVED8RcynGXM8EBmN3FH--
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