Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 23:26:09 +1100 From: Andrew Reilly <andrew-freebsd@areilly.bpc-users.org> To: Paul Richards <paul@originative.co.uk> Cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: c99/c++ localised variable definition Message-ID: <20050131122609.GA83556@gurney.reilly.home> In-Reply-To: <20050131102630.GJ61409@myrddin.originative.co.uk> References: <20050128173327.GI61409@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <20050131102630.GJ61409@myrddin.originative.co.uk>
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On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 10:26:30AM +0000, Paul Richards wrote: > 3) Usage in for loops may be more useful than other uses. [snip] > I think the loop usage though is one clear example where it is > clearer. I think there are others as well; where the usage of the > variable is clearly localised it is much easier to see a local > definition than to have to jump back and forth to find out what > variables are. I'd just like to raise a dissenting voice to this particular point. I find the for-loop initialization syntax a pernicious source of errors, mainly because of the non-intuitive scope of the definition. I.e., it looks like it's equivalent to "int i; for (i = 0;;)" but it isn't. If you carelessly c++-ify a loop like: for (int i = 0; i < N; i++) { if (some_condition(i)) break; } do_something_with(i); /* use finishing index */ you can miss the fact that the value of i is used outside of the loop. The newly created scope for "i" shadows the presumably pre-existing definition of i at the top of the function, which is what do_something_with() gets to see. Const friendliness and some minor economy of thought are perhaps valid benefits of this style, but I don't think sufficient to change the style. Cheers, -- Andrew
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