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Date:      Thu, 31 Jan 2002 16:52:52 +0100
From:      Eivind Eklund <eivind@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@starjuice.net>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Adding support for a global src tree serial number
Message-ID:  <20020131165252.A96747@phoenix.dmnshq.net>
In-Reply-To: <20020131144345.A73522@sunbay.com>; from ru@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 02:43:45PM %2B0200
References:  <20020131140403.A69232@sunbay.com> <79636.1012479657@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> <20020131144345.A73522@sunbay.com>

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On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 02:43:45PM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 02:20:57PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote:
> > On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 14:04:03 +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > > This scheme won't work because the state of the tree can be modified
> > > by CVS meisters performing direct operations on a repository.  See
> > > how stealthy the latest GCC import gone.
> > 
> > I don't think there are so many CVS meisters, or so much src repo
> > surgery, that having them bump the serial number manually in these cases
> > is a problem.
>
> "commit" is atomic operation, while direct manipulation of repository
> isn't.  To make it atomic, CVS meisters would have to lock src/, make
> the necessary surgery, bump serial number, then unlock it.

'cvs commit' is non-atomic.

We will not be able to get this to work perfectly with cvs and cvsup; both
are non-atomic.  We could make cvs atomic for our use, I guess, but I suspect
we'd find that non-workable (as it would mean that we would get a lot more
latency for any operations on the cvs tree).

I still think a /usr/src/SERIAL would be nice; thought it would not give
perfect information, it would still give better information than not having
it.

Eivind.

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