Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 22:04:20 +0200 From: Dan Partelly <dan_partelly@rdsor.ro> To: Adrian Chadd <adrian.chadd@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: libXO-ification - Why - and is it a symptom of deeper issues? Message-ID: <D46F4B83-24CA-4728-A7BE-9F9BFF773DCA@rdsor.ro> In-Reply-To: <CAJ-VmoniBAmWTf9MkCCMYhRbPLc=0%2Bz5kRSijXfqX9VZvm8jDg@mail.gmail.com> References: <0650CA79-5711-44BF-AC3F-0C5C5B6E5BD9@rdsor.ro> <CAJ-Vmokfo_BGWji9TrgQ40oRxqht9-2iEZVon7aQxR_93Ufxyg@mail.gmail.com> <702A1341-FB0C-41FA-AB95-F84858A7B3A4@rdsor.ro> <CAJ-VmoniBAmWTf9MkCCMYhRbPLc=0%2Bz5kRSijXfqX9VZvm8jDg@mail.gmail.com>
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> It's all fine and good making technical decisions based on drawings > and handwaving and philosophizing, but at some point someone has to do > the code. HI Adrian, . What I eluded too is not a small project. It is something that would = need proper discussion and agreement, since it would be pervasive and = touch=20 critical parts of the OS, such as the init system, system config = databases , and add proper services management facility. It would also = benefit=20 from a new form of kernel IPC. It would need consensus from FreeBSD = board or whatever to have any chance of even starting up. Nobody in his=20= sane mind would start it otherwise. Most likely he would work in vain, =20 And when consensus that something HAS to be done will exist, and from = empty discussion you would have a implementation plan, when maybe the = FreeBSD foundation would get involved and sponsor such a important = project to see it done to the end. And there are efforts today to go down the path I mentioned, NextBSD is = the incarnation of such an effort. And while they offer code and they do = make progress I do not seeing anyone in FreeBSD beeing too eager to = commit that code :P (Im not saying that you should adapt launchd and add = another comapt layer for FreeBSD for mach ). I for one like what Solaris = does. What Im saying that such work would never be possible directly in = FreeBSD, because lack of consensus that anything serious should be done, = apart from patching on sides. I am saying that gathering consensus that something has to be done must = exist before any code is written . Else you wont get much.=
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