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Date:      Thu, 23 May 2002 11:57:53 +0930
From:      Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
Cc:        Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@online.fr>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: French, Flemish and English (was: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha clock.c)
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On Wednesday, 22 May 2002 at 12:20:42 +0200, Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 7:00 PM +0930 2002/05/22, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>
>>> 	Nah.  Dutch numbers are much more fun.  Where we would say
>>> "Ninety-five", they say the equivalent of "Five-and-Ninety".
>>
>> So do the Germans.  Dutch *is* German, remember?
>
> 	Uh, no.  It's not.  They may be closely related, but they are not
> the same.  I took German lessons while I was in third grade, from a
> lady down the road who also ran a daycare center.  Turns out she was
> the only member of her family to survive Auschwitz, but I didn't
> learn that until much later.

Ah, you're talking about High German, the language spoken in Germany.
That derived from (mainly) old Saxon and Barb^Hvarian, with a
significant influence of Anglo-Saxon via the English missionaries who
converted the German tribes about 1300 years ago.  Dutch derives from
old Frisian, another German dialect.  Like English, they're both
Western Germanic languages.

> And Dutch still sounds to me like a cat hacking up a hairball.  ;-)

Indeed :-)

> 	Moreover, I have friends in the US who are fluent in German,
> and they tell me they are always screwed up when they hear Dutch,
> because the words are formed more like German, but the rhythm and
> word sounds are much more like English -- so they feel like their
> brain is being split in half.

Yes, Dutch sounds just plain funny if you speak English and German.

Greg
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