Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:40:41 -0500 From: Dennis <dennis@etinc.com> To: Chris Dillon <cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us> Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: if_fxp - the real point Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20010329183557.030eeda0@mail.etinc.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.32.0103290932450.30163-100000@mail.wolves.k12.m o.us> References: <5.0.0.25.0.20010328165848.03e9bcd0@mail.etinc.com>
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At 11:01 AM 03/29/2001, you wrote: >On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Dennis wrote: > > > At 04:22 PM 03/28/2001, Chistopher S. Weimann wrote: > > >On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 12:33:21PM -0500, Dennis wrote: > > > > > > > > Your logic is backwards. You think that rewarding mediocre > companies will > > > > scare good companies into wanting a piece of the pie. The only > thing that > > > > it will do is consume these companies so that the good companies can > > > have a > > > > larger share of the more profitable sun/NT market, and convince > them that > > > > they want no part of the "free" market if they have to compete with > > > > cut-rate hardware from hungry companies. > > > > > > > > > >Ok, let me get this Free Market thing straight. > > > > > >Not buying from a good company that provides a useful product > > >and instead buying from a bad company that doesn't provide a > > >useful product will make things better. > > > > > >That seems to be what you are saying dennis. > > > > > > No, I said just the opposite. This was in response to someone > > suggesting that we boycott companies like Intel for not providing > > full disclosure on their boards, and reward companies that do by > > touting their products. > > > > So I said that promoting lesser products because they are > > "cooperative" will make good hardware less available to the > > freebsd community, which might make some little people feel > > powerful but it wont serve the user base, which I assume is the > > goal. > >You seem to keep inferring that all vendors who disclose full >programming information somehow have "lesser" hardware. [other trivial >stuff snipped] I think that boycotting Intel and 3Com says enough to dispute your argument. The possible fact that some "good hardware" is disclosed doesnt make for good counterpoint. Generally, companies that "just crank out hardware" disclose their hardware specs., and releasing source is a last ditch effort when a company finds its software not good enough to sell. Value added vendors dont release such things, and value-added vendors tend to be the more dominant vendors. DB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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