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Date:      Fri, 26 Mar 1999 23:50:55 -0600 (CST)
From:      Steve Price <sprice@hiwaay.net>
To:        freebsd-java@freebsd.org
Cc:        Brian Adkins <brian@lojic.com>, Donald Wilde <dwilde1@thuntek.net>, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject:   A BSD-licensed JIT (was Re: Development Projects)
Message-ID:  <Pine.OSF.4.02.9903262337050.22203-100000@fly.HiWAAY.net>
In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990326130833.00ad6680@mailbox.iwaynet.net>

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[Please forgive the cross-post.  This started on advocacy,
 but should really be moved to java.  For those on the
 advocacy list that want to follow it over please do.  Anyone
 that replies please remove advocacy from the cc: line before
 hitting send.]

I've had about all of this I can stand.  I've read the JIT
docs and seen the size of the tarballs to a couple of JITs.
Not trying to trivialize in anyway what it takes to write
a really good JIT, but I want one under a BSD-style license
and I think we can get something workable in a reasonable
amount of time.

Anyone out there care to either:

a) Approach one of the GPL'd JITs and ask for a BSD-style
   licensed release.
b) Help me write one from scratch.  I sure I'm going to regret
   saying this, but writing a JIT (IMHO) has to be easier to
   write than a FreeBSD emulator for Linux. :)

Comments/suggestions/code?

-steve

On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Brian Adkins wrote:

# Donald,
#    I think you may have the cart before the horse.  To attract more Java
# users to FreeBSD, the JDK needs to improve substantially.  The average Java
# user is not interested in helping a platform become better, they are
# interested in platforms that run their apps well right now.  I personally
# wouldn't recommend increasing the visibility of FreeBSD's JDK until it
# improves - timing is important here because increasing the visibility
# before it's ready will just leave a bad lasting impression.
#    I don't want to dampen enthusiasm for the JDK on FreeBSD; I really hope
# it continues to improve and becomes a competitive product because I think
# the combination of FreeBSD and a competitive JDK is powerful.
#    I just called TowerJ to inquire about their product. When I asked if
# they were planning on porting their product to FreeBSD, he said they were,
# but didn't give a time frame. He did say that they've received a lot of
# requests to do so. Unfortunately, their product is fairly expensive;
# however, if you combine their pricy product with a nicely priced FreeBSD,
# you will still have a very competitive Java platform.
# 
# Brian



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