Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:16:43 -0600 From: Scott Long <scottl@freebsd.org> To: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> Cc: Nate Lawson <nate@root.org> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sbin/kldunload kldunload.8 kldunload.c Message-ID: <40F4432B.70304@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <24292.1089749636@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <24292.1089749636@critter.freebsd.dk>
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Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <40F43FB3.1030607@freebsd.org>, Scott Long writes: > >>Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> >> >>>In message <40F43DFE.3000402@freebsd.org>, Scott Long writes: >>> >>> >>> >>>>It typically won't be duplicated. This particular work is good for >>>>things like GEOM modules that don't fit into newbus. If at some point >>>>in the future newbus becomes aware of pseudo-drivers (drivers not >>>>attached by a hardware bus) then this should indeed be revisited. >>> >>> >>>I wish I could grasp from where this "newbus fits all" attiude >>>comes, I certainly see nothing anywhere that could explain it. >> >>NetBSD has most things under newbus. > > > yes, and ? > > I can't help to notice that only the words "NetBSD" and "most" are > present in your reply whereas the words "FreeBSD" and "all" are > significantly absent. > > It is not realistic to expect us to ever tie netgraph modules, tty > linedisciplines, network protocols, filesystems, vm objects, vnodes > and geom classes together with newbus. > > Not now, not in one year and not in ten years time. > > And since all of these things are involved in loadable modules, > I think we should stop wasting time dreaming about the day the > world will be one bit tangle of newbus. > > If we had a big company we could throw a load of money after random > acts of "top down architecture" like that, but with a volunteer > project it is just not going to happen. > Please settle down. My original statement was just a hypothetical and nothing more. The newbus cabal/bikeshed/whatever is not about to come crashing down on your head. Scott
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