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Date:      Mon, 26 Aug 2019 09:31:33 -0700
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net>, alan somers <asomers@gmail.com>
Cc:        Hiroki Sato <hrs@allbsd.org>, Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org>, Jan Sucan <sucanjan@gmail.com>, src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r351423 - in head: . sbin/ping6 sbin/ping6/tests
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On 8/26/19 1:59 AM, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote:
> In other notes (and I keep saying that), I can see a world when ping 
> doesn’t exist anymore as IPv4 doesn’t exist anymore (I partially 
> already live in that world).  The fact that people still do not prepare 
> themselves for this time is a bit strange to me as by the time FreeBSD 
> 14 is still in support this IPv6-only world might very well happen for a 
> majority of people.  And FreeBSD 14-CURRENT really is only a year away 
> now.   So breaking what’s been good for almost 20 years now for a few 
> more years doesn’t really seem to be worth to me.

Eh, I think having 'ping' around on even IPv6 systems is sensible.
ping is not inherently version-specific in name, only ping6 is.  Having
ping not include ipv4 bits for WITHOUT_INET=yes is fine, but I think not
having ping as a command is just nonsense.  The fact that we have ping6
instead of ping -6 (compared to say, traceroute, ssh, etc. which all
have unified commands) is just a user-interface bug we are stuck
maintaining compatibility for, not a goal to shoot for.

-- 
John Baldwin



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