Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 21:33:11 +0300 From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> To: Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using a FreeBSD desktop was somehting about dog food Message-ID: <CAOgwaMs-95-MK%2BTCiQrZE%2BghYHn25-i3C0qf=2BaVeyx_DejrQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2441ae2f-0726-f72f-88bd-6686f1751faf@tinka.africa> References: <38b7f44-6d54-fec6-c1f0-d3609d301687@safeport.com> <20220327081341.ef6a08004fb6986edf1b941e@sohara.org> <CAOgwaMsCgKrepam6v42Nk1M%2BnfWqk-yRWeqmKMMu9McsKfeVfQ@mail.gmail.com> <2441ae2f-0726-f72f-88bd-6686f1751faf@tinka.africa>
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On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 6:56 PM Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa> wrote:
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> On 3/27/22 11:25, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:
>
>
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> Over the years , without relentlessly I am mentioning this difficulty
> point .
> It seems that there is no hope to reach a solution to this problem .
> I do not know why .
>
>
> My thoughts are that if folk want pretty and easy, several options already
> exist.
>
> The open source world is, IMHO, more concerned with making inaccessible
> features and services available to the masses at the very least. Having to
> add lipstick and ribbons is less of a concern. To be fair, I don't see
> anything wrong with that. It mirrors real life... if people are willing to
> give you their free time to get you access to something typically only
> available to a few, it's pretty hard to be a chooser.
>
> Mark.
>
You are absolutely correct . In no case I am blaming very valuable FreeBSD
developers and
users . My main viewpoint is that people using FreeBSD and earning money
from this but NOT supporting FreeBSD Project ,
should support the FreeBSD Foundation to enable the FreeBSD Project to
implement missing points .
To reduce my message content I did not mention the above fact . In my
previous messages
the above fact is specified plainly .
Another very important obstacle in front of the open source projects is the
Nondisclosure Agreements ( NDA ) . My opinion is that developments in Open
Design
products , the open source world will overcome this problem over time .
Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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My thoughts are that if folk want pretty and easy, several options
already exist.<br>
<br>
The open source world is, IMHO, more concerned with making
inaccessible features and services available to the masses at the
very least. Having to add lipstick and ribbons is less of a concern.
To be fair, I don't see anything wrong with that. It mirrors real
life... if people are willing to give you their free time to get you
access to something typically only available to a few, it's pretty
hard to be a chooser.<br>
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