Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 11:31:08 -0500 From: Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with FreeBSD-11.0-Beta1 Message-ID: <93bd3635-7be0-0fad-35e2-2a202b990a90@denninger.net> In-Reply-To: <CAN6yY1tnkyU%2Bj=ZM3Gb2PgyXwYp5vh1g5U0xAk3EVyv2Y_4%2BqQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <1167694931.3702710.1468584584907.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1167694931.3702710.1468584584907.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <CAN6yY1tnkyU%2Bj=ZM3Gb2PgyXwYp5vh1g5U0xAk3EVyv2Y_4%2BqQ@mail.gmail.com>
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This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms090108080407020705030204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 7/15/2016 11:17, Kevin Oberman wrote: > 11.0 has not been released. You are much more likely to get a useful > response from current@. > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 5:09 AM, Filippo Moretti via freebsd-stable < > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> wrote: > >> I have the following problem when I start the system: > > >> Unknown user name "avahi" in message bus >> configuration fileUnknown user name "polkitd" in mes= sage >> bus configuration file >> Unknown user name "polkitd" in message bus >> configuration fileUnknown user name "colord" in me= ssage >> bus configuration file >> Unknown user name "pulse" in message bus >> configuration fileUnknown user name "polkit" in >> message bus configuration file > Unknown user name "haldaemon" in message bus configuration f= ile > > Failed to start message bus: > > Could not get VID and GID for username "messagebus" > > /etc/rc:Warning:failed to start dbus > > On the same computer I have a disk with 10.3_STABLE with the same >> configuration files and everything is working properly.When in X I la= unch >> firefox I get the following errorLibGL error: > failed to open drm device:Permission denied > > LibGL error :failed to load driver: r 300 > > This is very likely due to failure to start dbus > > sincerely > > Filippo > > > Note: I have tried to recover the mail format above. Whatever mail tool= you > used totally garbled things by removing line breaks. > > First, how did 11.0Beta-1 get installed? How sis your ports (X11, dbus,= > pulseaudio, etc.) get installed? When moving from one major release to > another (10 to 11), you need to reinstall all ports/packages. The > installation process is what creates these"users". > > It looks like you are just trying to run the things in /usr/local from = your > 10.3 system. This simply will not work. > -- > Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer > E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com > PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 Actually it SHOULD work unless you deleted the old libraries (in which case it definitely won't!); the dynamic loader is smart enough to do the right thing and load the correct (older) version of the shared libraries required. If this has been broken in recent releases IMHO that's not so good.=20 There *are* instances where an older binary is all there is for a given application (e.g. from a vendor!) and thus backward compatibility when you roll forward the operating system is something that a lot of people (myself included) have both used and relied on for a very long time. Yes, I understand that you can't *count* on that working, particularly if the app in question makes explicit reference to things in the kernel environment. But absent that they certainly should run. One instance where they didn't was with the armv6/armv6hf case where the floating point format changed, but that happened in the -CURRENT environment where ABI breakage is a known (and thus accepted) risk of running -CURRENT. (That particular one manifested in some nasty ways too in that going the "wrong way" would result in a binary that executed, did not produce any exceptions or traps, but produced incorrect floating-point results! I have code "in the wild" that checks for this specific circumstance on startup "just in case"....) Now if you do perform a merge and only accept part of it you can get in a lot of trouble with user and group IDs and similar, which is what appears to have happened here. It's pretty easy to get bit by that if you have local changes in your passwd and group files (and most people do), "leave them for later" and then don't go back and merge the new entries by hand. That sounds like what's occurred here; check in /var/tmp, assuming you told mergemaster to keep it when done. Since the svn repo for stable/11 is now there and when checked out builds BETA1 this IMHO appears to be the right place to discuss it. --=20 Karl Denninger karl@denninger.net <mailto:karl@denninger.net> /The Market Ticker/ /[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]/ --------------ms090108080407020705030204 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgMFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCC Bl8wggZbMIIEQ6ADAgECAgEpMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAMIGQMQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUzEQMA4G A1UECBMHRmxvcmlkYTESMBAGA1UEBxMJTmljZXZpbGxlMRkwFwYDVQQKExBDdWRhIFN5c3Rl bXMgTExDMRwwGgYDVQQDExNDdWRhIFN5c3RlbXMgTExDIENBMSIwIAYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhND dWRhIFN5c3RlbXMgTExDIENBMB4XDTE1MDQyMTAyMjE1OVoXDTIwMDQxOTAyMjE1OVowWjEL MAkGA1UEBhMCVVMxEDAOBgNVBAgTB0Zsb3JpZGExGTAXBgNVBAoTEEN1ZGEgU3lzdGVtcyBM TEMxHjAcBgNVBAMTFUthcmwgRGVubmluZ2VyIChPQ1NQKTCCAiIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQAD ggIPADCCAgoCggIBALmEWPhAdphrWd4K5VTvE5pxL3blRQPyGF3ApjUjgtavqU1Y8pbI3Byg XDj2/Uz9Si8XVj/kNbKEjkRh5SsNvx3Fc0oQ1uVjyCq7zC/kctF7yLzQbvWnU4grAPZ3IuAp 3/fFxIVaXpxEdKmyZAVDhk9az+IgHH43rdJRIMzxJ5vqQMb+n2EjadVqiGPbtG9aZEImlq7f IYDTnKyToi23PAnkPwwT+q1IkI2DTvf2jzWrhLR5DTX0fUYC0nxlHWbjgpiapyJWtR7K2YQO aevQb/3vN9gSojT2h+cBem7QIj6U69rEYcEDvPyCMXEV9VcXdcmW42LSRsPvZcBHFkWAJqMZ Myiz4kumaP+s+cIDaXitR/szoqDKGSHM4CPAZV9Yh8asvxQL5uDxz5wvLPgS5yS8K/o7zDR5 vNkMCyfYQuR6PAJxVOk5Arqvj9lfP3JSVapwbr01CoWDBkpuJlKfpQIEeC/pcCBKknllbMYq yHBO2TipLyO5Ocd1nhN/nOsO+C+j31lQHfOMRZaPQykXVPWG5BbhWT7ttX4vy5hOW6yJgeT/ o3apynlp1cEavkQRS8uJHoQszF6KIrQMID/JfySWvVQ4ksnfzwB2lRomrdrwnQ4eG/HBS+0l eozwOJNDIBlAP+hLe8A5oWZgooIIK/SulUAsfI6Sgd8dTZTTYmlhAgMBAAGjgfQwgfEwNwYI KwYBBQUHAQEEKzApMCcGCCsGAQUFBzABhhtodHRwOi8vY3VkYXN5c3RlbXMubmV0Ojg4ODgw CQYDVR0TBAIwADARBglghkgBhvhCAQEEBAMCBaAwCwYDVR0PBAQDAgXgMCwGCWCGSAGG+EIB DQQfFh1PcGVuU1NMIEdlbmVyYXRlZCBDZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZTAdBgNVHQ4EFgQUxRyULenJaFwX RtT79aNmIB/u5VkwHwYDVR0jBBgwFoAUJHGbnYV9/N3dvbDKkpQDofrTbTUwHQYDVR0RBBYw FIESa2FybEBkZW5uaW5nZXIubmV0MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAA4ICAQBPf3cYtmKowmGIYsm6 eBinJu7QVWvxi1vqnBz3KE+HapqoIZS8/PolB/hwiY0UAE1RsjBJ7yEjihVRwummSBvkoOyf G30uPn4yg4vbJkR9lTz8d21fPshWETa6DBh2jx2Qf13LZpr3Pj2fTtlu6xMYKzg7cSDgd2bO sJGH/rcvva9Spkx5Vfq0RyOrYph9boshRN3D4tbWgBAcX9POdXCVfJONDxhfBuPHsJ6vEmPb An+XL5Yl26XYFPiODQ+Qbk44Ot1kt9s7oS3dVUrh92Qv0G3J3DF+Vt6C15nED+f+bk4gScu+ JHT7RjEmfa18GT8DcT//D1zEke1Ymhb41JH+GyZchDRWtjxsS5OBFMzrju7d264zJUFtX7iJ 3xvpKN7VcZKNtB6dLShj3v/XDsQVQWXmR/1YKWZ93C3LpRs2Y5nYdn6gEOpL/WfQFThtfnat HNc7fNs5vjotaYpBl5H8+VCautKbGOs219uQbhGZLYTv6okuKcY8W+4EJEtK0xB08vqr9Jd0 FS9MGjQE++GWo+5eQxFt6nUENHbVYnsr6bYPQsZH0CRNycgTG9MwY/UIXOf4W034UpR82TBG 1LiMsYfb8ahQJhs3wdf1nzipIjRwoZKT1vGXh/cj3gwSr64GfenURBxaFZA5O1acOZUjPrRT n3ci4McYW/0WVVA3lDGCBRMwggUPAgEBMIGWMIGQMQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUzEQMA4GA1UECBMH RmxvcmlkYTESMBAGA1UEBxMJTmljZXZpbGxlMRkwFwYDVQQKExBDdWRhIFN5c3RlbXMgTExD MRwwGgYDVQQDExNDdWRhIFN5c3RlbXMgTExDIENBMSIwIAYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhNDdWRhIFN5 c3RlbXMgTExDIENBAgEpMA0GCWCGSAFlAwQCAwUAoIICTTAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZI hvcNAQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0xNjA3MTUxNjMxMDhaME8GCSqGSIb3DQEJBDFCBEC5 BCRGiNabyxtoJOhzxyvSxBFLvnIIGxQwLvvLK8TuJ/NLchX0ojgiu8KMWp5DW8dxptSy3JSs tOcD4HsWOEs7MGwGCSqGSIb3DQEJDzFfMF0wCwYJYIZIAWUDBAEqMAsGCWCGSAFlAwQBAjAK BggqhkiG9w0DBzAOBggqhkiG9w0DAgICAIAwDQYIKoZIhvcNAwICAUAwBwYFKw4DAgcwDQYI KoZIhvcNAwICASgwgacGCSsGAQQBgjcQBDGBmTCBljCBkDELMAkGA1UEBhMCVVMxEDAOBgNV BAgTB0Zsb3JpZGExEjAQBgNVBAcTCU5pY2V2aWxsZTEZMBcGA1UEChMQQ3VkYSBTeXN0ZW1z IExMQzEcMBoGA1UEAxMTQ3VkYSBTeXN0ZW1zIExMQyBDQTEiMCAGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYTQ3Vk YSBTeXN0ZW1zIExMQyBDQQIBKTCBqQYLKoZIhvcNAQkQAgsxgZmggZYwgZAxCzAJBgNVBAYT AlVTMRAwDgYDVQQIEwdGbG9yaWRhMRIwEAYDVQQHEwlOaWNldmlsbGUxGTAXBgNVBAoTEEN1 ZGEgU3lzdGVtcyBMTEMxHDAaBgNVBAMTE0N1ZGEgU3lzdGVtcyBMTEMgQ0ExIjAgBgkqhkiG 9w0BCQEWE0N1ZGEgU3lzdGVtcyBMTEMgQ0ECASkwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQAEggIANR3KnK8Q BV6v2dpGbqm4MZa6Fki7IeGiFyGsxCXG27PChadhQmy16LmZUF3T8SGG+K1Kx+Pe4HW49zGr OH6U6DSTKNjP/Kzxo34UUnzFWiMhIOfcL3/lZbgrUZdS3/HmOdWNREmm203mmsvTdASVqqZ9 +W4IEzFztFwBoZlwHR8zq671qcgQSrpcd6zwzTqGBIpr/VWx3+1RFzT2zNiYbRSiVA53z6n1 XcVH9FqGFnlVOnJpbjr5FjI4LBq7ufHMP51iJ2CClQb47hNv1VlRqQ0znOlRSUERzdjU/KyO arNUa9hxa8mLh1Pg51bynNHK4H/oJLhNG7dyuv9FPNiM66Pd3FWaV9BHQi+Scp0CfB4dySyD CIjTncHlwCNEwWUv8bjAntOxiwRKdUrzR2qRs4GbJljGHA6ipo5d9sU2G5zEXvkadDRQsmQn vyG7SScNjxAVDMnoeNiGq2QFlaV/cR+8rNqdNW+1FSMuoiRuEzX/1sTqN14Lp7blRnYB8bvf lWBF5UPfSjwxAsfOSS+u1kOYVE1+0jrImoidT0/WzcclcIXu87PcUDa/5IZ0+Vc38UW5hjn3 AmMuSvXIjeylXvnBgHAkYVAdC+yknbxUAapYMPX2o1he64/eSVC5RqVuZOV7RxaG61wApzEq O2nSejxCed+uqJHGwfLk2KUsj3kAAAAAAAA= --------------ms090108080407020705030204--
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