Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:08:34 -0400 From: Jerry <freebsd.user@seibercom.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6 Message-ID: <20100607160834.6f34972f@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20100608003222.A27982@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20100607104630.EA5FA1065741@hub.freebsd.org> <20100608003222.A27982@sola.nimnet.asn.au>
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--Sig_/vKf_wkUupgNT5t86xFS_MSo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 01:13:01 +1000 (EST) Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au> articulated: > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 314, Issue 1, Message: 33 > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 06:08:24 -0400 Jerry <freebsd.user@seibercom.net> > wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:50:04 +0200 > > Harry Matthiesen Jensen <freebsd@elgert.dk> articulated: > >=20 > >=20 > > > On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 12:20:08AM +0000, M=C3=83=C2=A1rcio C.G. wro= te: > > > >=20 > > > > As this link (http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D10570) > > > > says, JAVA PLUGIN WONT WORK WITH FIREFOX 3.6. I tried to use > > > > linux-sun-jdk16 port, but the plugin didn t work too. Is there > > > > an workaround or anybody that knows how-to use java plugin > > > > within firefox 3.6? > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > I just "portinstall firefox3", which right now will give you > > > Firefox 3.5.9, and java works ;-) > >=20 > > The OP requested help with Firefox-3.6, not with older deprecated > > versions. Perhaps when version '4' is released, support for Java in > > '3.6.x' will become available. >=20 > Dear Jerry, >=20 > as CEO of FreeBSD Multinational Corporation Incorporated, please > allow me to personally apologise for this unforgiveable lapse by our > 'Keep FreeBSD 100% Firefox-Compatible' Department; trust me, heads > will roll. >=20 > Unfortunately, I'm so high up in the hierarchy that I'm rarely > familiar with the names of those minions down on the 13th floor hired > to do the actual programming. It would be most helpful if you could > apportion blame directly to those individual/s responsible; otherwise > I'll have to work through layers of department heads, middle > management, team leaders and such, and you know how they can close > ranks in a crisis. It may take some time, but rest assured we'll > catch and fire him, her or them! >=20 > Thank you for your patience during our investigation of your > complaint. If still dissatisfied, of course I shall personally > authorise the full refund of your purchase price. I honestly enjoy satire. That said, it does not change the fact that a serviceable version of Java, suitable for Firefox-3.6, does not exist within the FreeBSD framework. A quick investigation of other operating systems would seem to indicate that FreeBSD is virtually alone in this regards. Now, I am sure that you have personally seen the white sheet detailing the technical reasons for this and will be willing to share it with me and perhaps others who might also be curious about the lack of said product. Now, I assume that you are familiar with the nVidia 64 bit drivers and FreeBSD. It took years for that to be rectified. Based on that past experience, I feel that stating that Firefox-4 might well be released before a serviceable Java is available for version 3.6+ is a real possibility. Your commentary does serve to prove a very real point however. To wit: Pointing out or stating a problem with a Microsoft product is insightful, constructive criticism; however, doing the same for an open source product is destructive, counter productive, flame bait. Seriously Ian, I question whether the FreeBSD authors are more interested in bumping version numbers than they are in producing a fully serviceable, quality product. When was the last time you tried getting a native FreeBSD driver for an 'N' class USB wireless device? Drivers for chips over a year old don't exist. It just seems to me that the priority should be on getting the present product fully functional rather than simply bumping version numbers. Then again, that is just my 2=E2=82=B5. --=20 Jerry =E2=9C=8C FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. --Sig_/vKf_wkUupgNT5t86xFS_MSo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMDVHLAAoJEEEooh6m7retIJ8H/0TJNdL6geq7Mn1nni/986iV OV2zn5V4BeWKG49GYvJ17F0tu24TbLuIgnGR+hRBh4Q9SYpm4t2cH8SeC1JdOWdo 4ve48qmBQXSlhwRKsWsf4OeoqswH1Und3XFT87bCQTunW8j3Jeh+3ZBleUvyP2XL gXTun5ipSJx9CHJj9OlYMXXpq/DU0ep+iCLKiTz7Rwz8nPWhdGZ76VRjO5K4hgeV CgRzm+XWcqn+G2tSGFW3QsPxmOU20u65gWPe/7r+wxlOpLLZ7yS7d8XIgArRbRgk Plwozd726LLym1Zejxf4ICukcuFFvVFFm/3r3qaWORjnaS2djH0wQy2VySnXjdA= =YDOg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/vKf_wkUupgNT5t86xFS_MSo--
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