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Date:      Mon, 5 Jan 2026 10:24:05 -0800
From:      Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>
To:        freebsd-test@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Misc. as part of usage testing
Message-ID:  <db83d9d2-e74a-4008-9c7e-277c95954037@yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <f50a134c-ead8-43f6-aceb-07abfc483518@yahoo.com>
References:  <ed0b1cfc-f1f1-40e3-a628-950aeb0bf311@yahoo.com> <f50a134c-ead8-43f6-aceb-07abfc483518@yahoo.com>

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On 1/5/26 09:49, Mark Millard wrote:
> On 1/4/26 21:15, Mark Millard wrote:
>> Hello.
>>
>> I'll note that the:
>>
>> gmane.os.freebsd.current.scm_dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org
>>
>> information is incoherent. It reports:
>>
>> List Address: dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org
>> (The description text matches reasonably.)
>>
>> But later reports . . .
>>
>> alias    dev-commits-src-all@FreeBSD.org
>> alias    dev-commits-src-all@FreeBSD.org
>>
>> (Yep: listed twice.)
>>
>> In reality dev-commits-src-main and dev-commits-src-all
>> are distinct lists, with dev-commits-src-main having
>> only a subset.
>>
>>
>> Most lists I looked at say mailman for "Mailing List Software but
>> this one is suggestive of being more accurate: mlmmj+
>>
>>
>> gmane.os.freebsd.devel.pkg freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org shows:
>>
>> encode    encrypt
>>
>> May be that explains the odd, long bugzilla-noreply-* text?
>>
>> Lots to learn.
>>
>>
> 
> As is common for me, I later have additional notes to add to
> my prior submittal as I've run into something while gathering
> evidence or am otherwise figuring things out. Some of these
> are messages are sent hour(s) later.
> 
> 
> It appears that the Gmane Autoauthorizer notices that report
> "[t]he mailing list software used for the list in question is
> mailman" are giving bad instructions as Mlmmj and mailman
> do not seem to be compatible for such things, if I understand
> right --and the FreeBSD lists are Mlmmj based these days.
> 
> I'm also not sure what the "+" is about in the "mlmmj+". It
> might be an error to be corrected.
> 
> 
> I've learned that listing the newsgroup and your Email
> address for the send did not lead to the message showing up
> via https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-test/ .
> 
> 

Well, the above did make it to:

https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-test/2026-January/000344.html

The prior notification related to the original
message was:

QUOTE
You are now authorized to post to the
gmane.os.freebsd.test newsgroup.

The original message you sent to the newsgroup will be
posted within ten minutes.

Your friendly autoauthorizer at Gmane.io
https://gmane.io/
END QUOTE

It was wrong relative to indicating that the original
message would show up there.


Given that the new message went through, it seems that if
I see a freebsd-*@freebsd.org for the same list(s) show
up in the To list, it may be that I should delete
it/them from the To list before sending.

-- 
===
Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com



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