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Date:      Mon, 07 Dec 1998 23:04:40 -0800
From:      Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
To:        "Jason C. Wells" <jcwells@u.washington.edu>
Cc:        FreeBSD-chat <freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Beta Testers For Applixware? 
Message-ID:  <199812080704.XAA00730@dingo.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 07 Dec 1998 17:56:32 PST." <Pine.BSF.4.05.9812071733370.1664-100000@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu> 

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> On Mon, 7 Dec 1998, Mike Smith wrote:
> 
> >> BTW, will it be ELF, a.out, or both ???
> >> I pre-ordered it, but I don't know what I'll receive. I am glad WC made
> >> it, after all.
> >
> >It will probably be a.out, built to run against a 2.2.x system.  It 
> >will be tested on both 2.2.x and 3.0.
> 
> This makes business sense but...
> 
> # This part of build should be regarded as deprecated and you should _not_
> # expect to be able to do this past the release of 3.1. You have exactly
> # one major release to move entirely to elf.

This is an admonition to -current users.

> Based on the above, I have already -DNOAOUTed my entire system. I hope
> it's trivial to put AOUT support back in. I am really looking forward to
> trying Applixware as a better alternative to StarOffice.

Applixware should run with the compat-22 kit installed, if not without.
The goal is to make it applicable to the widest possible installed base.

> 3.0 _is_ RELEASE. Maybe we should treat it as such. I get the feeling the
> 3.0-RELEASE is the redheaded step child of the FreeBSD world. "Sure we put
> it on our web page but you might want to run 2.2.8 instead."

This was stated unequvocally in the 3.0 release notes.  Pay more 
attention.  8)
-- 
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\\  sometimes you're behind.      \\  mike@smith.net.au
\\  The race is long, and in the  \\  msmith@freebsd.org
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