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Date:      Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:20:05 +0200
From:      "Julian Stacey" <jhs@jhs.muc.de>
To:        current@FreeBSD.ORG
Cc:        "Matthew N. Dodd" <winter@jurai.net>
Subject:   Re: it's time... 
Message-ID:  <199908141420.OAA02141@jhs.muc.de>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 12 Aug 1999 01:29:32 EDT." <Pine.BSF.4.10.9908120119170.4840-100000@sasami.jurai.net> 

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"Matthew N. Dodd" wrote:
> > Agreed.  I like what I see there.  Maybe it is time to hoist something 
> > like that into bus_subr.c
> Lets define exactly what we want before we start our charge.
> What should be printed?
> 	device ID
> 	attachment point
> 	resource reservation
> 	device additional
> When should it be printed?
> 	bootverbose levels?

Years ago I provided diffs to the kernel boot to report some probes Before 
as well as after, so one could see which probe was about to hang, - more use
than which probe was last to pass.  Idea was rejected as some thought it
was too verbose, but Nobody (me included) thought of having a
bootverbose levels switch to hang on it on.  ... Nice Idea !

Some Computer mags reccomend MS-* users to keep a boot flop for Linux or BSD,
as we provide much more diagnostics than MS*,  Before-probe-announcements
would make it more valuable still. Imagine if the more competent of the MS
crowd actually wanted to keep a FreeBSD boot floppy around :-)

Julian
Julian H. Stacey				http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/
  Considering Linux ?  Then also consider the 2000+ free packages for FreeBSD.


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