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Date:      Tue, 22 Aug 2023 11:06:34 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Zhenlei Huang <zlei@freebsd.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD CURRENT <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Question about KBI change / new feature
Message-ID:  <CANCZdfrYP13UbM-8Qsz17u3_roPuf=3cjvLYZwTgHaQaERnhJw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 9:42=E2=80=AFAM Zhenlei Huang <zlei@freebsd.org> wr=
ote:

> Hi,
>
> The https://www.freebsd.org/releases/14.0R/schedule/ says CURRENT/14 's
> KBI is froze
> and new features should be avoided.
>
> I'm working on https://reviews.freebsd.org/D39638 (sysctl(9): Enable vnet
> sysctl variables be loader tunable)
> and I think it is new feature, but not quite sure whether the KBI changed=
.
>
> So,
>
> 1. Is it a KBI change ?
>

IMHO, It's a KPI change, not a KBI breakage. So from that perspective, it's
OK.


> 2. It is a simple change ( while so far as I know currently only tested b=
y
> myself on x86 and qemu riscv ), can
> it catch up with 14 ?


That I'm less sure of. I think it's good, but I'm gun shy about approving /
committing vnet things. The review suggests,
though, there's at least some consensus for having this in the tree.


> Best regards,
> Zhenlei
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 9:42=E2=80=AF=
AM Zhenlei Huang &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:zlei@freebsd.org">zlei@freebsd.org</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi=
,<br>
<br>
The <a href=3D"https://www.freebsd.org/releases/14.0R/schedule/" rel=3D"nor=
eferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.freebsd.org/releases/14.0R/schedule/=
</a> says CURRENT/14 &#39;s KBI is froze<br>
and new features should be avoided.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m working on <a href=3D"https://reviews.freebsd.org/D39638" rel=3D"no=
referrer" target=3D"_blank">https://reviews.freebsd.org/D39638</a>; (sysctl(=
9): Enable vnet sysctl variables be loader tunable)<br>
and I think it is new feature, but not quite sure whether the KBI changed.<=
br>
<br>
So,<br>
<br>
1. Is it a KBI change ?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>IMHO, It&#39;s =
a KPI change, not a KBI breakage. So from that perspective, it&#39;s OK.</d=
iv><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
2. It is a simple change ( while so far as I know currently only tested by =
myself on x86 and qemu riscv ), can<br>
it catch up with 14 ?</blockquote><div><br></div><div>That I&#39;m less sur=
e of. I think it&#39;s good, but I&#39;m gun shy=C2=A0about approving / com=
mitting vnet things. The review suggests,</div><div>though, there&#39;s at =
least some consensus for having this in the tree.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef=
t:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Best regards,<br>
Zhenlei<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div></div>

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