Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:46:34 -0700 (PDT) From: jin@george.lbl.gov To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, tom@embt.com Subject: Re: P-II vs K6-2 Message-ID: <199906091946.MAA27296@george.lbl.gov>
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Tom Embt (tom@embt.com) wrote > I must also defend the Celery 450A :) Would you please tell me which farm plants Celery 450A :) ? I am not sure if you were talking the Celeron because at end of the mail you also refered Celery to > http://www.bxboards.com, and there is no Celeron 450 for sell. :-) All Celeron is based on 66MHz bus clock and they are available at 300/333/366/400/433/466 MHz. > I would pretty much have to agree with Brandon here. If I were building a > new computer for myself I would think Celeron before anything else. The > new ones (300A and above, both PPGA and slot-1 types) built on the > Mendecino core are an incredible value. I would say that >= 85% of them > can run at 450MHz, sometimes beyond. Now remember that the multiplier on ... > Since the Mendocino core seems easily capable of running 450MHz, but 500MHz > is less common, the best choice you can make is to get a Celeron 300A > (66x4.5) and run it at 450MHz (100x4.5). The OEM 300A is currently > available for $60-$70 from various places, but you'd also need to buy a > decent fan to put on it. Retail versions cost more but you get the fan > included, and some say they are more overclockable as well. Oh - and > Malaysian chips are better than Costa-Rican chips. So lucky! I have a dozen of Celerons from 400 to 466, and none of them can run at 100 MHz bus clock. Some of them can run at 83 MHz, but all of them can be overclocked to 75MHz bus clock without problems. I was told the 300 Celeron is more overclockable, but just had no chance to prove it. > The L2 cache on the Celly's does, as Brandon said, run at full core speed. > So forget the people that laugh at the Celeron because it only has a puny > 128KB of L2. A 450MHz Celeron's L2 is running at 450MHz, whereas a 450MHz > Pentium-II's cache is running at 225MHz (real P2's run it at half core ... > Well, if you are interested in going with a Celery, go read > http://www.bxboards.com and surf the newsgroups ala http://www.dejanews.com > . If not, well, maybe someone will gain some info from this rather > longwinded post of mine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message
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