Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:51:16 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> To: Nikolai Lifanov <lifanov@mail.lifanov.com> Cc: Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-current Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, David Chisnall <theraven@FreeBSD.org>, Rainer Duffner <rainer@ultra-secure.de> Subject: Re: Voxer using FreeBSD, BSDNow.tv interview Message-ID: <20141020185115.GC20589@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> In-Reply-To: <5445593B.4090606@mail.lifanov.com> References: <CAG=rPVfYQCBVRUcdPORAKGz_851YSTos=W7y0Sb2_VzO9cJ_oQ@mail.gmail.com> <31A8D963-F8EF-4D68-9586-39EE8A7C7C5A@FreeBSD.org> <1FB509B4-25C3-42D7-9F66-8685DEC712D2@ultra-secure.de> <54455570.8070808@mail.lifanov.com> <20141020184345.GA20589@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <5445593B.4090606@mail.lifanov.com>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 02:49:31PM -0400, Nikolai Lifanov wrote: > On 10/20/14 14:43, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 02:33:20PM -0400, Nikolai Lifanov wrote: > >> On 10/20/14 13:36, Rainer Duffner wrote: > >>> > >>>> Am 20.10.2014 um 10:19 schrieb David Chisnall <theraven@FreeBSD.org>: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I presume that most of the relevant differences are for users / developers and not sysadmins? It's worth noting that GNU coreutils, tar, bash, and a load of other things are in the ports repository. I wonder if it's worth having a gnu-userland metaport, perhaps with something like the Solaris approach of sticking them all in a different tree so that you can just add that to the start of your PATH and have all of the GNU tools work by default. > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> They use chef. > >>> The chef omnibus installer assumes there is a /bin/bash. Even the FreeBSD version of it. Well, it least it did the last time I looked. Maybe this got fixed in the meantime. > >>> Which means that to „bootstrap“ a node, you’ve first got to install pkg on it, install bash, symlink it to /bin/bash and then bootstrap the node. > >>> Which kind of runs against the concept of doing everything via chef. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> Hi from sysutils/ansible maintainer! > >> > >> The ansible port REINPLACE_CMDs away hardcoded paths at build time. This > >> way managing FreeBSD "just works". Maybe chef can benefit from the same > >> approach? > >> > > USES=shebangfix is there exactly for that. > > > > I USES=shebangfix, but it only fixes ~40% of path problems (although in > a very neat and easy to use way). Hardcoded etcdir, module directory, > man pages, etc. also need to be changed. > Yes that is the job of the maintainer, so bugging the chef maintainer is the right thing to do. Maintaining a port meaning making sure it workds properly the FreeBSD way. regards, Bapt [-- Attachment #2 --] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlRFWaMACgkQ8kTtMUmk6Ey7RACgwXEoQKIR9x0p4t1B8/AZIImu Hv4An0nty0+swNHHuSQ+pt+bOBM/jPsR =lSjc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----help
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