Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 01:20:26 GMT From: "JJB" <Barbish3@adelphia.net> To: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: kern/70881: 5.3 beta1 kernel.generic missing from /boot/kernel/ Message-ID: <200408240120.i7O1KQGP085226@freefall.freebsd.org>
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The following reply was made to PR kern/70881; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "JJB" <Barbish3@adelphia.net> To: "Brooks Davis" <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net> Cc: "Joe" <fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com>, <freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: kern/70881: 5.3 beta1 kernel.generic missing from /boot/kernel/ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:11:37 -0400 Brooks Davis wrote: > On Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 08:26:46PM -0400, JJB wrote: >> Brooks Davis wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 08:05:10PM +0000, Joe wrote: >>>> >>>> Downloaded 5.3 beta1-i386-mininstall.iso, ran md5 checksum and >>>> count matched, burned to cd and installed using standard/kern-dev. >>>> New boot process is missing kernel.generic module in /boot/kernel >>> >>> Why are you expecting one? The kernel on the boot media is GENERIC >>> in >>> 5.3. >>> >>> -- Brooks >> >> First of all the 5.3 kernel that comes with the iso file has nfs and >> core debugging options turned on so it's not a true generic as in >> what is expected for an stable version based on past stable version >> back to 3.0. The 4.x kernel.generic never gets deleted and is >> always there as built-in safe guard backup if there is problem with >> compiling a new kernel. Now I realize that there is a new boot >> process from 4.x so maybe there needs to be a /boot/kernel.generic >> directory that is a copy of /boot/kernel directory the system >> defaults to boot from. The function of this new directory is much >> the same as the kernel.generic file in 4.x. It acts as a built-in >> safe guard so the box can always have something to fall back on to >> boot the system so it can be used as platform to fix whatever caused >> the original boot problems. The bottom line is 5.3 stable should >> have the same built-in safe guards as 4.x stable versions have. This >> is really a cleanup item for the release built team. > > It's not reasionable to expect that 5.x will be identical to 4.x. In > this case I don't buy your logic anyway since the reason > kernel.generic existed before was that the boot media didn't actually > use GENERIC (due to space constratints on the floppies) and that > provided an easy way for users to use GENERIC without a recompile. > It was never there as a backup kernel. That's job of kernel.old or > what ever you you choose to copy working kernels to. > > -- Brooks You better check your facts. All 4.x versions are delivered with /kernel and /kernel.generic. They both are the same size and /kernel is the default boot uses. This has nothing to do with floppy booting. You make no sense and give no reason for not having the release build team just build a /boot/kernel.generic directory to continue the same high level of built-in safe guards. The user community knows it 's there and it must have been important enough that the 4.x build team put it there in the first place. What makes you think that it's no longer needed or wanted by the users community. All indications are the current built team has just over looked this detail that you are so easily discarding. Isn't the point of the weekly 5.3 beta build serials to fix these little oversights on the way to creating 5.3 stable? I don't think you are with the 5.3 beta testing cycle yet.
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