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Date:      Mon, 25 Aug 2025 08:44:39 +0000
From:      Marcin Cieslak <saper@saper.info>
To:        Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net>
Cc:        Kyle Evans <kevans@freebsd.org>, Xin LI <delphij@gmail.com>, Current <current@freebsd.org>, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org>
Subject:   UPDATING stuff
Message-ID:  <2r579os7-29n7-890r-9210-s3s1n4r0s4qo@fncre.vasb>
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2025, Alexander Leidinger wrote:

>>> COMPAT_FREEBSD14?  (Recently [gs]etgroups were changed, with compatibility 
>>> syscalls moved to COMPAT_FREEBSD14).
>
> UPDATING only mentions VMM stuff for COMPAT_FREEBSD14. I give this a try 
> tomorrow. But would this also affect the zfs dataset stuff?

This thread could have been a simple UPDATING update.  I think this is the fourth
time or so I have run into problems, because the changes were not explained.

UPDATING entry on VMM got only there after I've spent 2 days+ troubleshooting
my wifibox failures.

When I read your message I was immediately thinking you might need "COMPAT_FREEBSD14",
but, again, I couldn't find any obvious entry neither in the docs nor in
the git log I was looking at.

@glebus - maybe during the stabilization effort the changes done to the tree
could be reviewed and documented?

  - where the FreeBSD_version got bumped and why
  - ABI changes
  - ....

For example it could be useful to be able to find the information "what
does COMPAT_FREEBSD14 do exactly" in the UPDATING/release notes file.
Otherwise I can't be sure if I need that option or "is my system fresh enough"
to remove it from the kernel.

Marcin Cielak
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