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Date:      Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:48:28 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Cliff Skolnick <cliff@steam.com>
To:        Frank Tobin <ftobin@bigfoot.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD-security Mailing List <freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: securelevel descr
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9906181642561.6218-100000@lazlo.internal.steam.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9906181815330.58049-100000@srh0710.urh.uiuc.edu>

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While I don't think the pain would be worth it for a general purpose office
server, it would have it's place in the embeded world or as a border
firewall.  Typically these machine change rarely and have very few ports
open.  You really want this type of box to be secure.


I would say something about a shell system here too, but I don't want to
give anyone hope of securing a shell system with untrusted users. :)

Cliff

On Fri, 18 Jun 1999, Frank Tobin wrote:

> Harry M. Leitzell, at 19:09 on Fri, 18 Jun 1999, wrote:
> 
> > 	Correct me if I am wrong, but that would make admining a running
> > machine a rather large pain in the ass if every time a daemon stopped and
> > had to be restarted you would have to reboot.
> 
> Well, 1) how often do you have daemons crash?  2)  use inetd.
> 
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