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Date:      Sat, 3 Aug 1996 14:10:26 +0200
From:      roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert)
To:        kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (Christoph Kukulies)
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freefall.freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: sendmail (8bit char problem?)
Message-ID:  <199608031210.OAA02812@keltia.freenix.fr>
In-Reply-To: <199608030852.KAA29144@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de>; from Christoph P. Kukulies on Aug 3, 1996 10:52:30 %2B0200
References:  	<199608030852.KAA29144@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de>

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According to Christoph P. Kukulies:
> Sorry, I hand edited that line (some lines in the header) to avoid posting
> overly long lines. So I don't believe that's the problem.

OK. 
 
> How can I tell which one? Isn't it obvious from the headers that there are
> arvidsjaur.anu.edu.au and gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de envolved in the
> mail transfer?

There are two problems:

- It is "gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de", running sendmail 8.6.11 (you MUST
  upgrade BTW, it has some security problems, use only 8.7.5).

  8.6.* doesn't advertise the ESMTP extention called 8BITMIME so the mailer
  on arvidsjaur.anu.edu.au has rewritten the message in Quoted-Unreadable.

  As it is not able to correctly label the message, it uses Unknown-8bit as
  the charset.

  Using 8.7.5 would solve the problem on this side.

- ELM-ME+ is not able to  display "Unknown-8bit"-labelled text, even if you
  put it in compatcharset. This is a misfeature IMO and Mutt, the MUA I use
  now, display it correctly with the following warning (as Elm):

------------------------------------------------------------
[Warning!  UNKNOWN-8BIT charset is not compatible with your display.]

                            SAMBA Digest 1013

For information on unsubscribing and on what is appropriate to post to
this list see ftp://samba.anu.edu.au/pub/lists/samba.txt
------------------------------------------------------------

The solution I offer is to switch  to Mutt from  Elm. The author is Michael
Elkins, known  for the  original  ME patches to Elm   and the PGP/MIME  RFC
draft. 

See <URL:http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~me/mutt/>;
    <URL:ftp://ftp.cs.hmc.edu/pub/me>;

    <URL:mailto:mutt-request@cs.hmc.edu>        (it is a SmartList list)

The  PGP-aware  version, export-restricted  has appeared  on a german site,
look in the mail archive to find it.

The look and feel is based on Elm (even if  the display has chaned now). It
is highly configurable (key bindings, display formats...).

You'll need the following patch to build 0.38 on FreeBSD:

Index: curs_lib.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /build/master/mail/mutt/curs_lib.c,v
retrieving revision 1.1.1.2
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -2 -r1.1.1.2 -r1.2
--- curs_lib.c  1996/07/28 16:21:23     1.1.1.2
+++ curs_lib.c  1996/07/29 04:47:11     1.2
@@ -16,4 +16,6 @@
  */ 
 
+#include <config.h> /* needed for HAVE_SYS_PARAM_H */
+
 #ifdef HAVE_SYS_PARAM_H
 #include <sys/param.h> /* needed for definition of BSD on BSD-ish systems. */

Even  as alpha code, I'm  convinced that Mutt is a   very good MUA and I've
switched permanently now... 

-- 
Ollivier ROBERT    -=- The daemon is FREE! -=-    roberto@keltia.freenix.fr
FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #16: Sun Jul 21 13:26:53 MET DST 1996



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