Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:29:56 +0200 From: Michel Talon <talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: David Jackson <djackson452@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem Message-ID: <20120822102956.GA43074@lpthe.jussieu.fr>
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David Jackson said: > In reference to the claims that systemd developers "do not care about > portability", this is deceptive and misleading. You should read the following interview of Lennart Poettering http://linuxfr.org/nodes/86687/comments/1249943 The amount of hubris and self confidence he deploys is really astounding. I will just quote two extracts: " LinuxFr.org : Systemd use a lot of Linux only technologies (cgroups, udev, fanotify, timerfd, signalfd, etc). Do you really think the Linux API has been taking the role of the POSIX API and the other systems are irrelevant ? Lennart : Yes, I don't think BSD is really too relevant anymore, and I think that this implied requirement for compatibility with those systems when somebody hacks software for the free desktop or ecosystem is a burden, and holds us back for little benefit. " and cherry on the cake "LinuxFr.org : Why Linux desktop hasn't been adopted by the mainstream users ? Linus Torvalds seems to think it's mostly a social issue and not a technical one. Do you agree with him ? Lennart : I think we weren't innovative enough in the interface, and we didn't have a convincing message and clear platform. If you accept MacOS as benchmark for user interfaces, then we weren't really matching it, at best copying it. I think this is changing now, with GNOME 3 which is a big step forward as an interface for Linux and for the first time is something that has been strictly designed under UI design guidelines. " -- Michel TALON
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