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Date:      Sat, 31 Mar 2018 11:58:15 -0500
From:      Pedro Giffuni <pfg@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Dimitry Andric <dim@FreeBSD.org>, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>
Cc:        Antoine Brodin <antoine@freebsd.org>, svn-src-stable@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, re <re@freebsd.org>, svn-src-stable-11@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r331838 - in stable/11: . contrib/compiler-rt/include/sanitizer contrib/compiler-rt/include/xray contrib/compiler-rt/lib/BlocksRuntime contrib/compiler-rt/lib/asan contrib/compiler-rt/l...
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On 03/31/18 11:44, Dimitry Andric wrote:
> On 31 Mar 2018, at 15:18, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 02:42:01PM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote:
>>> It's been almost 3 months now since clang 6 landed in head, and if
>>> those ports require USE_CXXSTD=gnu++98 to be fixed, why haven't those
>>> already been changed already?
>> Because it takes a lot of time and effort to do it?
> I don't want to belittle anyone's work here, but I am very disappointed
> that it apparently takes more than 3 months (half the lifecycle of a
> complete upstream llvm release!) to fix broken ports.  Don't maintainers
> read their email, or care about their ports?
>
I have been receiving emails for 3 months about a port that broke from 
the clang update and while I care about my ports. I am not running 
current on the machine where I regularly use that port. It is important 
but not urgent.

Thanks to the update I can now start looking a it.

>> This basically torpedoes the work I've been trying to do to catch tier-2
>> up to tier-1, on 11.  I had been trying to to identify all the problems
>> that existed beforehand, before starting in on the clang6 ones.  (Many
>> people have also been contributing to fixing clang6/amd64/current errors,
>> and I wanted to let the work settle, and not duplicate.)
>>
>> Finally, if this had gone in just two days later, it would not have
>> affected the Q2 package builds.  I could have lived with that a lot more
>> easily.
>>
>> I am very disappointed in the timing of this change.
> In fact, I thought this was the perfect timing, so that the quarterlies
> are built with clang 6, and it has enough time to settle for the 11.2
> slush.  If this was merged later, somebody else would probably have
> grumbled that I had "merged it just before slush". :)
>
> -Dimitry
>
Pedro.



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