Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 16:50:35 +0200 From: Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net> To: Andrew Berg <aberg010@my.hennepintech.edu> Cc: freebsd-stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, Brandon Allbery <allbery.b@gmail.com>, Daniel Kalchev <daniel@digsys.bg> Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool Message-ID: <54072ABB.7040905@sorbs.net> In-Reply-To: <54072969.2080800@my.hennepintech.edu> References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <CAOFF%2BZ1MOr9-rYbwHYWqBKjMvRPwUnew4jThEoJ_WkoTmwyNsQ@mail.gmail.com> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> <CAF-3MvNBWSEWF-HarwF0xcXQgo=7-dO%2BtvLMO1maELPY0RVhQQ@mail.gmail.com> <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> <1D2B4A91-E76C-43A0-BE75-D926357EF1AF@gmail.com> <5405E4F5.4090902@sorbs.net> <5406BD65.705@digsys.bg> <5406ED34.7090301@sorbs.net> <5406F00C.6090504@digsys.bg> <C4EC1A3A-6EB1-4EE1-ACEA-12C8E203991C@cs.huji.ac.il> <358B9E99-5E02-47BA-9E30-045986150966@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <540711FF.3050409@sorbs.net> <47F4AAAA-2D88-4F03-8602-880C4B129305@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <54072011.7030800@sorbs.net> <CAKFCL4Wbg-DUZoZrrbZS-stKD8x4U%2BO5KowMHDGxFWSr3qLdGA@mail.gmail.com> <54072357.40101@sorbs.net> <54072969.2080800@my.hennepintech.edu>
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Andrew Berg wrote: > On 2014.09.03 09:19, Michelle Sullivan wrote: > >>> But the ports tree does not provide this and never has. >>> >> Yes and with the exception of 6.x->7.x no one has come alone and made >> such a massive change that has deliberately broken build systems for >> production servers without good reason without any alternative whilst >> people migrate (and lets not start the 'well you had 2 years' thing >> again - I had less than 2 months notice that the EOL message was put >> there so that the packaging system (and therefore the ports tree) was >> going to be deliberately, irrevocably and irreversibly broken - and the >> person responsible was quite happy about it. ) >> > If you think the ports team didn't communicate the EOL notice well enough, file > a PR and let them know how you think they could have done better. Do not act > like they sent out a notice only 2 months ago and just released pkg last week. > It *has* been a 2 year process, and your ignorance of it doesn't change that. > > Complaining isn't productive, but if you have real suggestions for improving > processes that involve breaking changes like this, I'm sure we would all be > happy to hear them. > ______________________ I had suggestions and was told (on IRC by the man himself) "No".. one hour to go before my confcall with ops about them taking over everything and me departing from looking after the servers. If they take it on, everything I have said will be a moot point anyhow as all servers will be migrated to DeadRat and I'll go back to just coding... I bet I'll get a lot more sleep then and be a happier person. Thanks for listening. -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/
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