Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2021 10:38:40 -0700 From: Chris <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Deprecating base system ftpd? Message-ID: <bc14faf38e4537f89b66ddcdb2629cd8@bsdforge.com> In-Reply-To: <6051E091-200B-4A7F-9A53-86652425BBB6@punkt.de> References: <CAPyFy2AbP2X339zbemZ9Y8edjNKdyygnR9mH48Q78nxwDtOBAg@mail.gmail.com> <6051E091-200B-4A7F-9A53-86652425BBB6@punkt.de>
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On 2021-04-05 12:01, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > Hi all, > >> Am 03.04.2021 um 22:39 schrieb Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org>: >> I'm happy to make a port for it if anyone needs it. Comments? > > A bit late to the party, but my take is: please just don't. > > I absolutely freaked out when Apple removed the telnet and ftp clients > from Mac OS and I needed to reinstall them via MacPorts. That route uses an inferior (opinion) version of ftp(1) && ftpd(8). It might interest you to know that the FreeBSD versions that (currently) already come with FreeBSD can be copied over to your Mac. I *too* became upset when I found MacOS w/o these, and on a hunch tried it, and worked as intended/expected. The FreeBSD version(s) are more "featurefull" than those that originally came on the Mac, or the GNU one that is supplied w/MacPorts. > > People who manage any larger collection of networking gear *depend* > on these outdated but simple services. Client and server side alike. > > TFTP is not going away, neither is FTP. I'm dead serious. Remote media > via Supermicro IPMI in 2021? SMB1. Firmware updates for my UPS? FTP. > Scanner/printer/fax all-in-one thingy? Uploads received fax transmissions > via FTP. PBX? Uploads usage reports via FTP. This stuff is here to stay. > In local networks, of course. > > But still even on "the Internet", FTP is the most used method for customers > of static website hosting. You cannot teach these people what an SSH key is. > Just my experience, but backed by a load of customer interactions over more > than 20 years ... > > Kind regards, > Patrick > -- > punkt.de GmbH > Patrick M. Hausen > .infrastructure > > Kaiserallee 13a > 76133 Karlsruhe > > Tel. +49 721 9109500 > > https://infrastructure.punkt.de > info@punkt.de > > AG Mannheim 108285 > Geschäftsführer: Jürgen Egeling, Daniel Lienert, Fabian Stein --Chrishelp
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