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Date:      Mon, 20 Feb 2023 19:32:58 +0100
From:      Jochen Neumeister <joneum@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "alex@potemkin.co" <alex@potemkin.co>, "freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.org" <freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: Actual status of Docker (ready for production?)
Message-ID:  <bc80a72a-7f27-ab5b-9a6a-375f473a1966@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <d50ac191-affa-43e7-a01c-3db42b301b09@edison.tech>
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Hello Alex,

most people use either Jails or Bhyve on FreeBSD.
I took over maintaining the Docker port a few days ago. I had another 
Docker port almost ready to use on FreeBSD about 2 years ago. Here, 
however, little time and too little manpower was the reason that it 
could not be implemented.
I would like to make a new attempt to make the Docker port usable.
Currently I would not recommend to use it in a productive environment, 
because it is also relatively expensive.

However, I don't want to make any promises that this time I will succeed 
in getting Docker running on FreeBSD so that it can be used productively.

Cheers
Jochen

Am 20.02.23 um 09:13 schrieb alex@potemkin.co:
> Hello!
> ​
> ​I'm trying to understand an actual status of Docker / podman to check 
> if I can pick FreeBSD as a platform for the application servers 
> running pre-packaged apps inside Docker.
> ​
> ​I've tried to google things, but I'm getting controversial 
> information here:
> ​- wiki (https://wiki.freebsd.org/Docker) says things doesn't actually 
> works since around 2019-2022
> ​- ports seems to contain Docker 
> (https://www.freshports.org/sysutils/docker/) and it seems to be 
> regularly updated
> ​- there doesn't seem to be any discussion in this maillist lately, 
> which makes me thing it's either dead or very much alive =)
> ​
> ​Any real-life Docker usage feedback would be much appreciated!
> ​I'm considering production servers, would love to make it on FreeBSD 
> as opposed to Linux, but if it will be crashing / throwing errors 
> and/or won't just work out of the box, like it does on (Debian/Ubuntu) 
> Linux, I will be in trouble.
> ​
> ​Thanks in advance!
> ​
> With best regards,
> ​Alex Potemkin.
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    <p>Hello Alex,<br>
      <br>
      most people use either Jails or Bhyve on FreeBSD. <br>
      I took over maintaining the Docker port a few days ago. I had
      another Docker port almost ready to use on FreeBSD about 2 years
      ago. Here, however, little time and too little manpower was the
      reason that it could not be implemented.<br>
      I would like to make a new attempt to make the Docker port usable.<br>
      Currently I would not recommend to use it in a productive
      environment, because it is also relatively expensive.</p>
    <p>However, I don't want to make any promises that this time I will
      succeed in getting Docker running on FreeBSD so that it can be
      used productively.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Cheers<br>
      Jochen<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 20.02.23 um 09:13 schrieb
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:alex@potemkin.co">alex@potemkin.co</a>:<br>
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              style="font-family:sans-serif">Hello!</font></font></div>
        <div><font style="font-family:sans-serif">​</font></div>
        <div><font style="font-family:sans-serif">​I'm trying to
            understand an actual status of Docker / podman to check if I
            can pick FreeBSD as a platform for the application servers
            running pre-packaged apps inside Docker.</font></div>
        <div><font style="font-family:sans-serif">​</font></div>
        <div><font style="font-family:sans-serif">​I've tried to google
            things, but I'm getting controversial information here:</font></div>
        <div><font style="font-family:sans-serif">​- wiki
            (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.freebsd.org/Docker">https://wiki.freebsd.org/Docker</a>) says things doesn't
            actually works since around 2019-2022</font></div>
        <div><font style="font-family:sans-serif">​- ports seems to
            contain Docker (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.freshports.org/sysutils/docker/">https://www.freshports.org/sysutils/docker/</a>)
            and it seems to be regularly updated</font></div>
        <div><font style="font-family:sans-serif">​- there doesn't seem
            to be any discussion in this maillist lately, which makes me
            thing it's either dead or very much alive =)</font></div>
        <div><font style="font-family:sans-serif">​</font></div>
        <div><font style="font-family:sans-serif">​Any real-life Docker
            usage feedback would be much appreciated!</font></div>
        <div><font style="font-family:sans-serif">​I'm considering
            production servers, would love to make it on FreeBSD as
            opposed to Linux, but if it will be crashing / throwing
            errors and/or won't just work out of the box, like it does
            on (Debian/Ubuntu) Linux, I will be in trouble.</font></div>
        <div><font style="font-family:sans-serif">​</font></div>
        <div><font style="font-family:sans-serif">​Thanks in advance!</font></div>
        <div><font style="font-family:sans-serif">​</font></div>
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                    <div><font style="font-family:sans-serif">With best
                        regards,</font></div>
                    <div><font style="font-family:sans-serif">​Alex
                        Potemkin.</font></div>
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