Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 22:42:58 +0200 From: Peter Korsten <peter@grendel.IAEhv.nl> To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATT Unix for Windows ! Message-ID: <19970825224258.55928@grendel.IAEhv.nl> In-Reply-To: <34020362.7DB1@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co>; from Pedro Giffuni S, on Mon, Aug 25, 1997 at 03:12:50PM -0700 References: <199708251245.WAA23142@oznet11.ozemail.com.au> <19970825204932.12036@grendel.IAEhv.nl> <34020362.7DB1@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co>
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Pedro Giffuni S, shared with us: > Peter Korsten wrote: > > > > I suppose you mean that it's a disadvantage that you have to buy > > this software? Because I think Visual C++ is an excellent developer > > environment, at least a whole lot better than the gvim/gcc/xxgdb > > combination I use on FreeBSD. > > Come on..those stupid wizards generate lots of bloat. At least with gcc > you have exactly what you wrote. Let's go a bit further: Visual C++ is > not even a visual a language, it's M$ pathetic attempt to turn C++ into > "Visual" Basic. Well, at least they have something visual. Do you know of any handy tool to patch a program together that happens to run with FreeBSD? That runs with X too? For the same price as VC++? If you write simple stdin/stdout programs (a so called Console Application in Visual C++), it's far easier to use. A really good editor, a really good debugger, and all of it integrated. Not to mention the difference between a makefile with tons of '-switches', compared to a project workspace. Perhaps I can spend a week and look for all kinds of tools that have some, the same, or even more functionality than VC++, but in my case, it's cheaper to buy VC++. And it comes with manuals and a great online help, instead of some info files nobody but Gnu uses. But well, this is only from my personal experience from a FreeBSD system and a Windows NT 4.0 system two metres apart. Of course, I find MS's marketing strategy - either buying or crushing the competition in about _every_ field in computing - disturbing, to say the least. But they do make decent software. Maybe not all of it, but much of it. - Peter
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