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Date:      Sun, 02 Nov 2014 01:09:34 +0100
From:      =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= <des@des.no>
To:        Ian Lepore <ian@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>, "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>, Mark R V Murray <markm@FreeBSD.org>, Alexander Kabaev <kabaev@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r273872 - in head: etc/defaults etc/rc.d libexec/save-entropy share/examples/kld/random_adaptor sys/conf sys/dev/glxsb sys/dev/random sys/kern sys/modules sys/modules/padlock_rng sys/mo...
Message-ID:  <86egtm5upt.fsf@nine.des.no>
In-Reply-To: <1414885448.17308.236.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> (Ian Lepore's message of "Sat, 01 Nov 2014 17:44:08 -0600")
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Ian Lepore <ian@FreeBSD.org> writes:
> Yeah.  I vaguely remember discussion about this something like 12-18
> months ago.  As I remember it, there was a desire to avoid using the
> same startup saved entropy on a rapid series of reboots and the thinking
> was to combat that by generating some fresh saved entropy on each boot.

Sure, but this can be done from cron instead of an rc script (see
below).

> It seems like that should work if the old saved entropy were stirred
> in with the modicum of boot-time entropy before generating a new save
> file.

That's what happens in random_start().

> I was thinking maybe postrandom should only try to save a new file if
> there are some existing files to avoid the possibility of hanging.  But
> when I look at postrandom more closely, it seems to be generating a save
> file, then deleting it along with all the other save files.

Umm, yes, I hadn't noticed that (I only reviewed the kernel code).  I
think we should just remove the fastsaveseed line.  Instead, make a
@reboot entry for save-entropy in /etc/crontab.

DES
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